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Could Vietnam win the White House for Kerry?
guardian.co.uk ^ | Tuesday February 3, 2004 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 02/06/2004 10:09:00 AM PST by Destro

Could Vietnam win the White House?

A tearful reunion with a former comrade revived John Kerry's presidential bid, fellow veterans have flocked to support him and now campaign adverts show him in full combat gear. Why does Vietnam still exert such power over American voters? Suzanne Goldenberg reports

Tuesday February 3, 2004

The Guardian

Making of a hero ... Lieutenant John Kerry (second from left) with the crew of his gunboat on the Mekong River in 1969

It was March 13 1969, and the US army Green Beret was running out of breath after diving five times beneath the surface of the Bay Hap river, to escape Vietnamese sniper fire from its banks. From downriver, he heard a gunboat approach. A US navy lieutenant, who had already been hit in the arm, exposed himself to fire once more to haul the Green Beret over the bow and to safety. Half a lifetime later, Jim Rassman, the erstwhile Green Beret, is a paunchy, retired police official who grows orchids for a hobby. Memories of that day are seared for ever in his brain. "He could have been shot and killed at any time, and so could I. So I figure I probably owe this man my life," he says.

More than 30 years later, Rassman had his chance to repay the debt. The navy man was John Kerry, one of the contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination, and Rassman may have saved his political career. The registered Republican has emerged from quiet retirement in Oregon to put himself at the Kerry campaign's disposal. Their tearful reunion earlier this month - their first meeting since Vietnam - has transformed Kerry's fortunes.

Two days after the two Vietnam veterans embraced at a campaign rally, the caucus goers of Iowa delivered a stunning victory to Kerry, confounding those who had declared his campaign dead. Two weeks later, the senator from Massachusetts is either the frontrunner or up there competing in all seven of the states holding their primaries today, and the pundits are now wondering if he is unstoppable.

It is possible to argue that Kerry's entire career is contained in the arc between those encounters in the treacherous waters of the Mekong Delta and the frozen plains of Iowa. It is also possible to argue that Kerry, like tens of thousands of American men of his generation, never truly left Vietnam behind.

"The memories come back all of the time. We haven't forgotten any of this. For the last 30 years, we have just learned how to manage," says Rob Stenson, now 55. Stenson spent 13 months as ground crew at the Danang airforce base in central Vietnam, and is an active campaigner for veterans' benefits. "It's not a question of getting over it. You manage it," he says.

Some 3.5 million Americans served in Vietnam, and tens of millions more grew up in its shadow. But beyond the obvious centrality of Vietnam to an entire generation, there is a hard-edged practicality to Kerry's lifelong tribute to the months he spent in uniform.

He has told interviewers that he doubts he could have succeeded in politics without having served in Vietnam. The forced companionship with the raw recruits under his command was the Boston prep schoolboy's first exposure to ordinary Americans. After returning home a bona fide hero with a chestful of medals, Kerry completed his credentials by fighting for peace, testifying in Washington against the war in 1971, and leading a march of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The testimony was the making of Kerry. The navy lieutenant was viewed by the Nixon White House as its most formidable anti-war opponent because it was understood that Kerry's impeccable war record would insulate him from charges of being an unpatriotic hippy.

At this time of inescapable parallels between a futile project to halt communism in south-east Asia, and a faltering attempt to remake the Middle East by going to war in Iraq, the current occupant of the White House harbours similar concerns.

As a wartime president, George Bush would rather not fight an election against a war hero - especially one whose Purple Hearts and Bronze and Silver Stars stand in contrast to his own experience. Republican operatives have indicated that they would rather Kerry did not emerge as the Democratic candidate, and rightwing commentators have begun to attack his service record and opposition to the war.

Unlike Kerry, Bush never went to war: family connections earned the future president a coveted position in the Texas air national guard. But even that sinecure eventually proved too taxing; a number of recent books suggest that he could have been absent without authorisation for as long as eight months.

But Kerry is more than his wartime record - as Democratic rival, General Wesley Clark, has discovered. Although Clark also served with distinction in Vietnam, he did not share Kerry's misgivings about the war. Those doubts, which Kerry expressed to the Senate foreign relations committee in 1971, have enabled him years later to reconnect with the men of his damaged generation. In later life, as a senator, Kerry joined fellow veteran and Republican John McCain to try to resolve the haunting issue of American MIAs, and to bring about reconciliation with Vietnam.

Some of these activities were controversial. Among the small but vocal minority who believe that some Americans remained in secret captivity in Vietnam, Kerry is seen as a traitor for leaving men behind. Other veterans bridle still at Kerry's testimony to the Senate, in which he said that US soldiers had committed rape, murder and torture, and ravaged the countryside of south Vietnam. Alternate versions of those heady days of the anti-war movement also portray Kerry as an opportunist who launched on to their protests for personal gain.

But one fact was indisputable. Kerry had established a connection with his generation, and that connection, in turn, could now win him the presidency. The reappearance of Rassman was merely the start. As the campaign went on, dozens of other vets attached themselves to the Kerry campaign as volunteers and a number who fought alongside him, made campaign appearances.

At this point, it is difficult to imagine Kerry's candidacy without Vietnam. His campaign ads include clips of a war-era Kerry walking along in fatigues and helmet, and testimony from his gunboat crew. The message is simple: "When the bullets began to hit the side of the boat, the boom, the pow, pow, pow, we found out that John Kerry can lead," says one of his crew.

Veterans involved with the Kerry campaign say there is a psychic bond that cannot be easily explained. "He is in effect the spokesman for our generation," says Max Cleland, another icon of that war, who has campaigned for Kerry in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. "In a strange way, it's a delayed reaction. Thirty-five years later, we have someone who speaks our language, who understands the issues of war, peace and readjustment, and who understands the tragedy of war."

Cleland, a former senator from Georgia, lost both legs and his right arm to a grenade while serving in Vietnam in 1967. He struggles to define what it is that tugs at the veterans who have signed on to the Kerry campaign. "It's a brotherhood of suffering - something so deep and painful that it goes beyond words."

The hunger to find meaning shows no sign of abating. The Fog of War, the recently released documentary on Robert McNamara, tries - and fails - to get the former secretary of defence to come to terms with America's role in the cold war. Late last year, the Toledo Blade exposed an atrocity that ranks alongside the infamous My Lai massacre: the killing of hundreds of south Vietnamese villagers by the 101st Airborne Division.

"I think it will remain an issue with the post-war baby boom generation as long as it is alive," says David Maraniss, author of They Marched Into Sunlight: War and Peace, Vietnam and America, October 1967.

If anything, Maraniss says, Vietnam has become even more central to those who fought there. During the past five years, Vietnam veterans who had been silent for decades have begun to seek out their former comrades over the internet. He attributes the interest in revisiting the war to a realisation of mortality among a generation now approaching retirement. "Whenever I write anything about that period, I get calls from people all over this country, men who see something I have written and just need someone to talk to, even a reporter," Maraniss says.

Others say that the Iraq war is also a significant factor. Sydney Schanberg, the former New York Times reporter who became famous for his account of Cambodia's Killing Fields, believes the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam are inescapable. Both conflicts are futile; both expose the mendacity of governments. "The most important reason it resonates ... is that Iraq - though hardly analogous, nothing is ever perfectly analogous - has got the same broad template," says Schanberg. "You send men into a strange region where they don't speak the language, and they cannot tell automatically or easily who the friend is and who the foe is, and there are people trying to get at them, shooting at them right through the night.

"They are now learning, if they haven't learned, that their government either lied or distorted information in order to get public support to go to war."

Kerry's learning curve began even before he left for Vietnam. According to a lengthy biographical series in the Boston Globe last summer, he was already entertaining doubts about the war by the time he enlisted. He chose the navy because he believed he would be safe and because he liked the parallels with another Bostonian: John F Kennedy, who parlayed a career as a navy hero into the presidency.

But by December 1968, when Kerry arrived for his first tour in-country, the navy gunboats were being used for dangerous missions up the Mekong Delta. Kerry saw so much action that he was able to win an early transfer home soon after rescuing Rassman.

By 1971, when he appeared before the Senate foreign relations committee, Kerry was on his way to becoming a star. "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?" Kerry asked the committee. "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

In Kerry's New Hampshire headquarters last month, where a half-dozen greying Vietnam veterans were manning the phones and reconnecting, it was remembered as the former navy lieutenant's finest hour. At least so far.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; vietnam
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To: Destro
The assumption is assinine. Did he get this from Bill Kristol ?
61 posted on 02/06/2004 3:23:59 PM PST by John Lenin ( Remember men, we're fighting for this woman's honour; which is probably more than she ever did.)
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To: adam_az
Arnold was a traitor and Kerry is not a traitor no matter how partisan you want to make it. What you are doing now is smearing - a Clintonian tactic. I do not support Kerry but I do not need to become a shrill cog in the smear campaign and stoop to that level. I assumed Republicans were above such things. If you can find a court of law that placed charges of treason against Kerry then you can call him a traitor. General Lee was more of a traitor than Kerry was.
62 posted on 02/06/2004 3:30:14 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: ohioman
We have different definitions of treason. I won't dumb down the meaning of treason. I am not a Kerry supporter (stressing it heavily) but I won't call his anti Vietnam war stance or the words he used to describe that war treason. Those words may have been treasonous in say Nazi Germany or the USSR where dissent is automatic treason but not in the USA, not yet anyway. Republic before republican.
63 posted on 02/06/2004 3:33:31 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: OneTimeLurker
I meant it on purpose-you are the only one who got the joke.
64 posted on 02/06/2004 3:34:45 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Arnold was a traitor and Kerry is not a traitor no matter how partisan you want to make it.

I take considerable offense to that statement...

If a man serves with you in a war zone, proccesses back to the United States, and takes the enemies position upon his return. Calls those who he left behind war criminals, actively agitates against those very brothers in a series of actions that in of themselves were criminal (see the photos of his being hancuffed and hauled away).

Kerrys testemony to Congress was filled with lies about those of us he left behind. He berated us, Jane Fonda and John Kerry did their best to demoralize those of us that still honorably fought and died after he left. His depiction of us as rapists, murderers, was totally false.

I for one, will never forgive Kerry/Fonda and ilk for their TRAITOROUS ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOUR!!!

I hope I live long enough to piss on the bastards grave...

65 posted on 02/06/2004 3:58:30 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Destro
Veterans involved with the Kerry campaign say there is a psychic bond that cannot be easily explained. "He is in effect the spokesman for our generation," says Max Cleland, another icon of that war.

What about your buddy, Bill Clinton? I thought *he* was the spokesman for your generation -- at least that's what your side claimed when you elected him.

66 posted on 02/06/2004 4:41:43 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: South40; All
Here's something else from the site posted (within at the bottom; separate link):



Kerry stopped the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate

The Washington Times
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
December 6, 2002

John Kerry's war record

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned — and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam — an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity.

Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.
MICHAEL BENGE
Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
Washington

Spokesman - Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry
Michael Benge can be reached at: BENGEMIKE@aol.com


67 posted on 02/06/2004 6:29:03 PM PST by JLO
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To: JDoutrider
When did giving testemony before congress become an act of treason? Purgery? Possible - treason? No.
68 posted on 02/06/2004 6:39:52 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: JDoutrider
By the way - was LBJ guilty of anything for making up the Gulf of Tonkin incident that he used to fool congress into granting the president unlimited war authorization? Is that not in and of itself an obsenity? Any member of LBJ's crew been hauled in front of a court of law? Just wondering. Or are you one of those Republicans that backs false premis wars started by Democrats? WMD fiasco? That does not come close to the obsenity that the Democrats created that fooled us into war. But luckily when you wave the flag emotions trump brains.
69 posted on 02/06/2004 6:48:51 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

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In 1971 George W. Bush was wearing the uniform with pride, serving his country, and supporting the troops.

In that same year, 1971, Kerry was desecrating our flag, called our troops baby killers, and was openly siding with our enemy.

70 posted on 02/06/2004 6:50:05 PM PST by ChadGore (Viva Bush)
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To: ChadGore
Thanks for the laugh.
71 posted on 02/06/2004 6:52:23 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: SAMWolf
Oh I like that. That would be hilarious out on a shirt when I greet troops. We have some pre Vietnam American Legion Vets in our group who plan on voting for Kerry. </p>
72 posted on 02/06/2004 6:59:11 PM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: Destro
There will be two things that happen in this campaign:
  1. Virtually every veterans group will endorse Bush. Even the middle-of-the-roaders will know what to make of that.
  2. Ramsey Clark will get a lot more scrutiny and Kerry's association with him will be an issue.

73 posted on 02/06/2004 6:59:44 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: armymarinemom
Found it by accident when I was trying to look up something on Kerry. :-) I thought it appropriate
74 posted on 02/06/2004 7:04:08 PM PST by SAMWolf (I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Billthedrill; All
"For a guy who was in country to go back and agitate against those who were still in country isn't a mark of brotherhood, it's a mark of betrayal. That's what most Vietnam era vets will be remembering, IMHO."

You're 100% correct from what I know about VN vets. And my beliefs too.

Apparently, though, it's not widespread knowledge. I guess that's some are trying to do - spread the word.
75 posted on 02/06/2004 7:08:08 PM PST by JLO
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To: Destro
Scary F'ing Kerry is living in a time warp. Viet Nam is over. Either he and the entire democrat party is suffering from PTSS, and/or Kerry and his fellow democrats have absolutely nothing to run a campaign against President Bush other than harping us to tedious monotony concerning Kerry's Viet Nam days. Not to mention his turncoat activities that only the likes of Hanoi Jane and her fellow anti-war protestors could suck up. That is something I will never forgive is their spitting in the faces of our brave soldiers and demeaning their sacrifices. What is even more unforgivable is that these dirt bag anti-war protestors gave aid and comfort to the Viet Cong and many of our POW's paid heavily for that.

Even if Kerry is a war hero, for which he should be honored for his service to our country, does not make him the best candidate to follow through with the vital and critical fight in our war on terrorism.

76 posted on 02/06/2004 7:30:27 PM PST by harpo11 (Democrats...notorious spinners, spenders, splurgers, and stupendous snookering slithering snakes.)
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To: harpo11
Even if Kerry is a war hero, for which he should be honored for his service to our country, does not make him the best candidate to follow through with the vital and critical fight in our war on terrorism.

Well said. Campaign smart. Leave the self destructive Kerry is a traitor rants behind.

77 posted on 02/06/2004 8:22:35 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: harpo11
HUUH???????????? Even if Kerry is a war hero, for which he should be honored for his service to our country
78 posted on 02/06/2004 9:06:19 PM PST by JLO
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To: Shermy; Destro; archy
According to a lengthy ... make that "HAGIOGRAPHICAL" biographical series in the Boston Globe:

Fasten seat belts. Have Barf Bags at the ready. It's
Kerry the Annointed One, and Our Lady of Chappaqua
as the democrat candidates for ought four.

My fellow freepers, we have nothing to fear but Rove himself. Trust me, when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, Karl's your man. The most the idiot-savant can do for us now is alert the vote-fraud team. Good luck to us all. Bosun, have the band play "Nearer My God to Thee." (Spanish language version) Steward, re-arrange those deck chairs. We might be going down.

79 posted on 02/07/2004 7:07:45 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
I love the election seasons. I love democracy in action. It is a contest and like all contests agony is a major element of it. (Democracy and agony are both Greek words. In fact agona is the Greek word for competition and comes from the pain people felt watching them) So why is everyone so upset? It seems many here are in panic mode? Are they like you in that their senses are telling them Bush may lose (because he distanced himself from the conservative wing) while their hearts refuse to admit such a possibility?

This is better then the Super Bowl.

80 posted on 02/07/2004 7:13:41 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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