Is AWOL Story Source Will Turnipseed Related To "Iraqi Shield" Left-Wing Bush-Basher Tom Turnipseed?

Various | February 6, 2004 | Myself

[Hon]

William Turnipseed is the man who is solely responsible for the claim that Bush was AWOL during his National Guard service. Here is a thread on the subject.

Man Behind Bush AWOL Charge Is John Edwards Supporter

Will Turnipseed is also a contributor to the John Edwards campaign. He did his Guard duty in Montgomery Alabama and has now retired there.

It turns out that there is another prominent Turnipseed. He is the president of the South Carolina Trial lawyers association, Tom Turnipseed. (Edwards is largely bankrolled by trial lawyer groups.)

Tom Turnipseed is 68 years old (Will is 71). Tom was born in Montgomery Alabama.

Tom Turnipseed Bio

Tom Turnipseed is also a former Democrat Senator. He also ran against Strom Thurmond. He once was George Wallace's National Campaign Director. He is also a fomer DNC Party Executive.

Tom Turnipseed is now a ultra left wing Bush hating whackjob along the lines of Michael Moore.

Tom was going to be an "Human Shield" in Iraq,

Turnipseed to Spend Month in Iraq Promoting Peace

But he chickened out at the last moment.

Turnipseed delays departure for Iraq

Tom Turnipseed is a fan and sponsor of the radical left group ANSWER.

LIST OF INITIATORS AND ENDORSERS

Tom Turnipseed also has had a life-long history of mental illness. He is bi-polar and manic depressive. He has received shock therapy.

Crazy Is Cool

Is this the man who is really behind the AWOL story? Can we find out whether Tom Turnipseed and Will Turnipseed are related?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You should perhaps email Brit Hume with what you've learned. I wonder if FNC would put this man on the air to set the record straight.

[onyx]

Have yall read this?

[backhoe]

Yes, and there are new & signifigant developments thanks to Hon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073076/posts
Debunking The Bush AWOL Story - From The Horse's Mouth
Brig. Gen. Turnipseed | February 6, 2004 | Hon

[proud American in Canada]

"Guess I should've used the word nipple in the title."

LOL! here's a bump for you... great thread!

[onyx]

Yes, and there are new & signifigant developments thanks to Hon.

Thank you sweetheart, and my best to your darling Miss Em.

[backhoe]

A Tip 'O the Hatlo Hat to you & yours-

[proud American in Canada]

You deserve some kind of Freeper award for this... Outstanding work!!!

I hope Hannity & Rush pick up on this...

So Brig Gen Turnipseed says that the "Bush haters" have misrepresented what he said? Here's a site (seems to be left-wing) that chronicles the history of the AWOL charge:

http://www.sundaysalon.org/press_reference.asp


and here's his quote:

"In September 1972, Bush won approval to do temporary "alternative" training at the 187th Squadron in Montgomery. He was cleared to attend weekend drills in October and November. But two of the 187th's officers said Bush never appeared. "I'm dead-certain he didn't show up," said the unit's commander, retired Brigadier General William Turnipseed."

I can't find any reference to the name of the other officer.

[Hon]

"I can't find any reference to the name of the other officer."

Thanks. But as you can see I only happened to talk to him because I was on the wrong track.

The other office was Turnipseed's administrative officer. I think he may have been a lieutenant--but his name is Lott. IRC, Turnipseed indicated that Lott didn't remember one way or the other either.

BTW, I don't know if you've seen the follow-up thread on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073076/posts?q=1&&page=1

[oldironsides]

This morning I got an email regarding President Bush's resume. It began with his DUI in Maine and went downhill from there. It also said he was AWOL from the NG and never mentioned plots wings and years served. It is a very damaging email full of twisted facts and outright lies. The GOP had better get a handle on this lie before it gets to every voter. It really sounded like Terry McCauliffes talking points. It seems as though the DNC is coming out early and with the usual slander

[bellesouth]

"I just don't think he came to the base," Gen Turnipseed told The Telegraph last week. "I would have remembered him. If he did turn up at all, it must have been when I was off-base. But actually, I don't think he made an appearance." Let battle commence (Filed: 08/02/2004)

[bellesouth]

Uh oh, they found a third person who doesn't remember seeing Bush in Alabama! "Attendance records of the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron do not show that Bush ever was there. "I never saw the man, I never met the man," Kenneth K. Lott, the squadron's personnel officer at the time, told Newsweek. Lonnie Slauson, who was the squadron commander in 1972, told Newsweek, that "the name Bush wouldn't have meant a thing to me back then," but he had no memory of Bush either. (The President told Russert that his honorable discharge in 1973 is proof enough that he did his duty, including in Alabama.)"Newsweek Press Release

[elbucko]

..and this is relevant because...?

This is very relevant because bi-polars and depressives have a difficult time mentally processing important information and relating it in proper context. I'm sorry, when the lives of people are at stake, you don't get a pass because your "crazy". Liberty and reality just cannot afford to let mental illness affect world affairs. Which it has done, historically, on a tragically immense scale. The history of the World is the history of the mentally ill.

That's why it's extremely "relevant"

[Straight Vermonter]

Nonsense. Churchill and Lincoln were both bi-polar. This disorder is emotional not intellectual. Bi-polar people have absolutely no difficulty "processing important information".

The list of highly successful people who have had mental health problems is like a historical who's who. Winston Churchill, Isaac Newton, and Plato are just a few.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

The one on the left is a William Turnipseed (now deceased) from Arkansas.

I guess this is definate proof!

If you have seen one turnip seed you have seen them all!

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Yeah, and I was all wet about that. In fact, the William Turnipseed who gave Edwards money is another William Turnipseed in Montgomery Alabama. (What are the odds?)

You were assuming that Turnipseed is a rare name? Think again, pretty common around the central southland.

[handk]

This is the most whacked-out title I've ever read. It's unfixable. It's unreadable. It's incomprehensible. Burn the whole thing.

Are you off your meds?

[hobson]

Uh.. that wasn't my post.

[elbucko]

The list of highly successful people who have had mental health problems is like a historical who's who. Winston Churchill *, Isaac Newton, and Plato are just a few.

Why stop there? What about Ivan the Terrible, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Kim Ill Jung, to name a few. How about Saddam Hussein? Is this man truly sane? I seriously doubt it.

Or how about this list of infamous " eccentrics";
John Wilkes Booth, assassinated President Lincoln, 1865.
Charles Guiteau, assassinated President Garfield, 1881.
Leon Czolgosz, assassinated President McKinely, 1901.
Gavrilo Princep, assassinated Archduke Ferdinand and precipitated WWI and began the seeds of the 20th. Century's most tragic events.
Lee Harvey Oswald, assassinated President Kennedy and left the question of Vietnam for the less worthy to decide.
Sirhan B. Sirhan, assassinated Senator Robt. Kennedy, 1968.

James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, David Hinkley, Mark Chapman. Their one unifying coincidence is that all but a few were in their twenties when they committed their crimes that altered history. The twenties is the age that bi-polar most outwardly expresses itself. The exceptions to the 20 rule is that those who were older were in prison during their twenties.Human history is the story of the struggle between various forms and severity of human mental conditions. It is a relevant subject when lives are at stake. It is worthy of study and consideration in all human affairs.

Tom Turnipseed also has had a life-long history of mental illness. He is bi-polar and manic depressive. He has received shock therapy.And this is very relevant because he is not expressing reality as it is, but as he perceives it. Or better put, would you sleep in the same room with him if he had a gun?

*And yes, I know what the "Black Dog" is.

[blueturnip]

Why is Gen. Turnipseed being referred to as "Will"? He has never been know by that name. He and Tom are in no way siblings. Gen. Turnipseed has been contacted by anyone
and everyone media affiliated and would really like to be
left alone. I've know him for 53 years and know his life's
history.

[PistolPaknMama]

Is Tom Turnipseed really a Bush backer as your title indicates or is that an oops in the title?

This is L8Pilot, not PistolPackinMama. Tom Turnipseed, the SC attorney, has never been a "Bush backer". He is a liberal activist, whose wife was my substitute English teacher in High School.

We have crossed political swords in recent years. He is a leftist, Unitarian activist, I am a Conservative, Christian Constitutionalist, with a strong dose of Southern activism.

Through a professional friendship, (we are both attorneys), I know that he is a "double first cousin" with Morris Dees, of the Southern Poverty Law Center. For the uninformed, the SPLC is not Southern, nor is it poor. It is a multi-million dollar leftist enterprise, that raises money from well meaning liberals by scaring them with visions of KluKluxers, Southern patriots, Nazis, Christian fundamentalists, anti-immigration activists, the Boy Scouts, and the Sierra Club. Yes, you heard me correctly, the Boy Scouts and the Sierra Club. All have been on the SPLCenter "hate list".

Tom Turnipseeds mother and father were brother and sister to Morris Dees father and mother. If that sounds too incestuous, you should look at Mr. Dees divorce papers. It would appear that he has a propensity for stepdaughters, other men, and other men's wives. Morris Dees also seems to have a propensity for "suborning perjury" (ie. encouraging a witness to lie) in the Joan Little case.

I have it on good authority that Tom Turnipseed's uncle, Morris Dee's father, was known as "Slick", because he was the best "con man in Alabama"

FSI

Larry