[Atlantic Friend]

Too bad for the Hun in the Sun, I liked the way he wrote "sometimes being an old European means honoring old values". That had real class.

That's good news, about Schröder. Who would be the CDU front-runner in the next election ?

[Hun in the sun]

Well, t`was looking ok in the Preview... sorry.

Here it is again:


Posted by Hun in the sun to Michael81Dus
On News/Activism 02/05/2004 2:54:01 PM PST #104 of 135

>I lick noone feet.

So why are you giving the Freepers a false impression of the climate in Germany?

>Mr. Schröder and his comrades. In fact, he is the worst >Chancellor since Hitler!

Hm... you mean, beeing against a war is nearly as bad as starting one? In fact, Schroeder is just a Machtmensch. A red painted Kohl, no difference.

>Or would you say that Adenauer, Erhardt, Kiesinger, >Brandt, Schmidt or Kohl were worse than him??

Adenauer is the guy who sold german unity for the price of beeing a part of the NATO, instead of just beeing neutral... right?

>I personally blame Schröder for the rift between the US >and Germany, and not the German voters.

You blame him for following the word & idea of the Grundgesetz?

"Grundgesetz für die Bundesrepublik Deutschland vom 23.Mai 1949 Artikel 26.

Handlungen, die geeignet sind und in der Absicht vorgenommen werden, das friedliche Zusammenleben der Völker zu stören, insbeson­dere die Führung eines Angriffskrieges vorzubereiten, sind verfassungs­widrig. Sie sind unter Strafe zu stellen.

Strafgesetzbuch (StGB) der Bundesrepuplik Deutschland: § 80. Vorbereitung eines Angriffskrieges. Wer einen Angriffskrieg (Artikel 26 Abs. 1 des Grundgesetzes), an dem die Bundesrepublik Deutschland beteiligt sein soll, vorbereitet und dadurch die Gefahr eines Krieges für die Bundesrepublik Deutschland herbeiführt, wird mit lebenslanger Freiheitsstrafe oder mit Freiheitsstrafe nicht unter zehn Jahren bestraft.

And that`s for you, Mr. Jura:

§ 80a. Aufstacheln zum Angriffskrieg. Wer im räum­lichen Geltungs­bereich dieses Gesetzes öffent­lich, in einer Versammlung oder durch Verbreiten von Schrif­ten (§ 11 Abs. 3) zum Angriffskrieg (§ 80) auf­stachelt, wird mit Freiheits­strafe von drei Monaten bis zu fünf Jahren bestraft."

Ya studying law, aren`t you?

And you`re calling me a leftist??
I´m just defending our constitution,
while you are one-eyed. A Basic Law
is a Basic Law, not a base for discussions.
That`s also a "conservative" value, I`d say.

>How do you know wether majority of Germans oppose the US >the ballots on that??

How about talking to people, watching TV and radio, or read a newspaper?

>So STFU and don´t try to lecture me what I should think >or say!

I won`t, I`m a democrat... it`s just my opinion.

>It was not about going to war against Iraq and it was no >expression of disapproval with His Excellency, the >President of the United States of America, George Walker >Bush.

Dreamer.
It WAS a "was an expression of disapproval", that`s how Schroeder won... what else?

>Well, according to the polls, the voters now know what >was their fault - or how would you explain the historical >low of the Social DemocRATS and the absolute majority for >my party, the CDU/CSU???

Simple... War is over, daily problems have become more interesting again ...

>I´d really like to know wether you are conservative or >not.

I served in the army and am a Gov. Official, Bundesbeamter... which means I have sworn twice on the constituition. It seems *you* are the radical one in here, see my Grundgesetz quotes above....

>Tell me what you are! This is a conservative site. Tell me WHO YOU are?

You are a Bundeswehr Reservist. Keep your oath and read the Grundgesetz. BTW: PPL hate traitors and boot lickers, that`s why many of the Freepers don`t respect you.

I prefer to discuss on an equal level. We are
Allies, not Vassals.

Hun

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Atlantic: I`ll translate the constitution quotes for
you, just send me mail...