Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Edwards Only Democrat to 'Personally' Oppose 'Gay Marriage'
cnsnews.com ^ | 04-Feb-2004 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:01 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper

(CNSNews.com) - In light of a Massachusetts court ruling Wednesday that the state's legislature cannot use civil unions as a substitute for so-called "gay marriages" in that state, many voters are asking where the Democrats competing for their party's presidential nomination stand on the issue.

While none of the candidates has openly supported homosexual "marriage," all four believe that homosexual partners should have the same legal rights and privileges as married couples.

The Massachusetts Senate had previously requested clarification of a November 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruling that homosexual couples have a right to "marry" under the state's constitution. In a four to three ruling, Wednesday, the court responded, saying that only fully equal "marriage" rights for homosexual couples would satisfy the state's constitutional requirements.

Although none of the four remaining likely Democrat nominees has openly supported homosexual "marriages," all four believe that the legal and societal privileges, until recently bestowed exclusively on traditional marriages, should be eliminated.

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) refers to "protecting gay and lesbian families" on his website.

"Same-sex couples should be granted rights -- including access to pensions, health insurance, family medical leave, bereavement leave, hospital visitation, survivor benefits, and other basic legal protections -- that all families and children need," Kerry writes in a position statement entitled "A Record of Working on Behalf of Gay and Lesbian Americans.

Kerry supported legislation to provide unmarried partners of federal employees the same benefits that have been reserved for married federal employees and their spouses. He boasts of being the only senator standing for reelection in 1996 to oppose the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), one of only 14 who voted against it.

The Massachusetts Democrat openly supports civil unions, and believes that employers and government should be forced to provide the same health benefits, inheritance rights and survivor's benefits to homosexual partners that are currently offered voluntarily to spouses of married employees.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark said that he "welcomed the [November 2003] Massachusetts court decision with open arms." Clark compared homosexual activists' quest to have their relationships recognized as "marriages" to the struggles of racial minorities seeking civil rights in the 1950s.

"Growing up in Little Rock in the 1950s, I saw first-hand how wrenching the fight for civil rights was," Clark wrote on his campaign website.

"In too many ways, the struggle for equal rights is still on-going. Today, one of the frontlines in the civil rights struggle runs through the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community," Clark continued. "We must always stand by the principle: every American should enjoy the exact same rights as every other American."

Dr. Howard Dean is the only one of the four Democrats to have successfully lobbied to give homosexual cohabitants rights and privileges equal to those of married spouses.

"I'm proud to say that as Governor of Vermont, I signed legislation to grant same [sex] couples the right to enter into civil unions," Dean boasts on his website. "This law, the first of its kind in the United States, guarantees lesbian and gay couples the same basic legal rights that married couples enjoy."

In contrast, Sen. John Edwards is the only candidate to have openly opposed "gay marriage," while taking a firm stand against the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would prohibit activist judges from creating such a legal category. Edwards supports marriage-like benefits and privileges for homosexual cohabitants, as well.

"As I have long said, I believe gay and lesbian Americans are entitled to equal respect and dignity under our laws," Edwards said in response to the court's November 2003 decision. "While I personally do not support gay marriage, I recognize that different states will address this in different ways, and I will oppose any effort to pass an amendment to the United States Constitution in response to the Massachusetts decision."

The Democrats' positions -- except for Edwards' "personal opposition" to homosexual "marriages" -- are in direct opposition to the beliefs of voters even in traditionally liberal Massachusetts, according to public opinion polling data reported by CNSNews.com Jan. 7.

According to the Zogby International poll, sixty-nine percent of likely Massachusetts' voters want to consider a constitutional amendment to protect traditional marriage in that state. The poll found that 69 percent of respondents felt it was better for children to be raised in a household with a married mother and father.

Half of all respondents said they think the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court overstepped its bounds in its decision to redefine marriage. Seventy-three percent of those surveyed felt that if homosexual couples want to provide for each other, they could to do so through private contractual arrangements already allowed under the law.

The poll also indicated that voters' opposition to homosexual marriage would impact their decision about political candidates.

When asked if they would be more or less likely to vote for a candidate who supports homosexual marriage, 33 percent would be less likely to vote for the candidate as opposed to only 16 percent who said they would be more likely to vote for a pro-homosexual "marriage" candidate.

The Zogby poll was conducted from Dec. 16-18, 2003, and 601 voters, chosen at random, were surveyed. The poll carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percentage points.

The presumptive Republican nominee appears to have heard the voters on the issue. President Bush, expressed his support for traditional one man-one woman marriage, and hinted that he would back the Federal Marriage Amendment, during his State of the Union address in January.

"A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization," Bush said.

"Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states," the president added.

"Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard," Bush continued.

"If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage," he said.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Property Rights, explained why the president's support for the Federal Marriage Amendment is crucial.

"In September, I chaired a hearing that asked whether [the Defense of Marriage Act] and other traditional marriage laws were in peril due to judicial activism. Following today's ruling, the answer increasingly appears to be 'yes,'" Cornyn said Wednesday.

"Do we let people and states, through their elected officials, decide the definition of marriage, or do we let activists judges overrule their decisions through court edict?" Cornyn asked rhetorically. "This is an important question that must be addressed before the decisions of one court in Massachusetts impacts and overrides the will of states well beyond the borders of the commonwealth."

Cornyn called for hearings "now" on the amendment.

"On an issue as fundamental as marriage," Cornyn concluded, "it is the job of the American people, through their legislators, to decide -- not the Massachusetts court."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; breckgirl; decision2004; democrat; dems; dim; edwards; election2004; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; issues; johnedwards; kerry; prisoners; samesexunions
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last

1 posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper; jwalsh07
I wonder if someone will ask Kerry what differences he sees between his vision of civil unions and marriage other than the name? Is this just an untruth in labeling act? I wonder if someone will ask Kerry if a civil union partner should be able to avail themselves of the Social security benefits of his partner just like a spouse does?

I support gay marriage, and make no bones about it, but deflective disingenuous bs should be pounced upon each and every chance one gets. Just say what you mean, and mean what you say. I guess that is a recipe for unelectibility, so perhaps I am being a bit demanding of the political entrepreneurial class. Maybe that is the problem: most of them are political entrepreneurs.

2 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Torie
It will be interesting to see if he's in a holding pattern on this issue, or perhaps on a later day and time he'll start waffling all over the place as most politicians tend to do on such hot button issues as this one, depending on whether he's targeting more Moderate voters on FOX, and then an hour later, he makes an appearance on CNN and stammers and stutters and gives a half-assed open ended answer that goes unchallenged by the leftist political correspondant on CNN, who's sole purpose is to see that he makes it to Boston at the convention unscathed, much like Clinton.
3 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:26 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Howlin; Tamsey; Mo1; gatorbait; onyx
John Edwards policy position *ping*
4 posted on 02/04/2004 9:13:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
Is this Edwards' "Sistah Souljah" moment?
5 posted on 02/04/2004 9:15:02 PM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper






Dang, but these Democrats are a stupid bunch.

Even Clinton had the brains to oppose same-sex marriage.


6 posted on 02/04/2004 9:16:45 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
Is this Edwards' "Sistah Souljah" moment?

Nope, it's Edwards having it both ways:

In contrast, Sen. John Edwards is the only candidate to have openly opposed "gay marriage," while taking a firm stand against the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would prohibit activist judges from creating such a legal category. Edwards supports marriage-like benefits and privileges for homosexual cohabitants, as well.

"As I have long said, I believe gay and lesbian Americans are entitled to equal respect and dignity under our laws," Edwards said in response to the court's November 2003 decision. "While I personally do not support gay marriage, I recognize that different states will address this in different ways, and I will oppose any effort to pass an amendment to the United States Constitution in response to the Massachusetts decision."

Because of the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, the only way that the Massachusetts decision can be prevented from making same-sex marriage a national institution is by a CMA.

Edwards' promise means nothing. It's the same as favoring same-sex marriage.


7 posted on 02/04/2004 9:29:46 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
Ironically, that crossed my mind that perhaps this is a Sistah Souljah moment for Edwards. If it is, we'll see his Clintonesque qualities come to fruition.
8 posted on 02/04/2004 9:30:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
It's his position today...... Of course, he might be doing this to give an appearance of sanity to the upcoming ticket , or, perhaps to buy his place as the figurehead of the DLC. Ah well..
9 posted on 02/04/2004 9:31:41 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sabertooth
Nope, it's Edwards having it both ways:

Saber, that gave me a visual I think I'd have just as soon skipped.......:- )

10 posted on 02/04/2004 9:33:22 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: gatorbait
The Clintons are grooming this guy big time. I can sense it from this article.
11 posted on 02/04/2004 9:34:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Sabertooth
Doesn't Ted Kennedy personally oppose abortion? Just asking. You are right of course, what Edwards said is a classic verbal obfuscation designed to avoid taking a stand on the issue, which of course per the end game, is embracing a policy, but the end games on non policy policies are for the pointy heads to fret about, and granted, often don't ensue as the pushing and shoving causes mid course corrections.
12 posted on 02/04/2004 9:34:33 PM PST by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: gatorbait
I did too, but you beat me to the punch. LOL :)
13 posted on 02/04/2004 9:35:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
If the Clintons are grooming Edwards, it is odd that they did not force Clark out of the race yesterday. Clark is eating up Edwards alive, and reducing his chances from double digit odds to single digit odds of taking the gold. And just why would the Clintons want Edwards to take the silver?
14 posted on 02/04/2004 9:36:38 PM PST by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Torie




Doesn't Ted Kennedy personally oppose abortion?

I believe he takes them one bridge at a time.


15 posted on 02/04/2004 9:37:42 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Sabertooth
You are on a roll tonight. LOL.
16 posted on 02/04/2004 9:38:19 PM PST by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Torie
Someone is going to have to fall on the sword. They (Clintons) may be employing the two pronged attack. The Clintons I suspect couldn't care less who fell on that sword, as long as one of them remains in the dog fight til the end. Deep down, its a struggle to remain in charge of the Democratic party as a whole.
17 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
The Clintons are grooming this guy big time. I can sense it from this article.

Yes,indeed they are. Edwards was , a year ago or so, their boy.When it appeared he was faltering(something I think he'll do again) they leapt onto the odious Wes Clark. Clark self destructed pretty handily, something his new friends were not expecting,Edwards, like the good little golden retriever he is,just sat, wagging his Gucci tail, waiting for his masters' call. I understand Bill himself made the initial calls and Hillary! did the scut work in the Senate .We shall see how he does.Edwards does not need to "win" to "win" .

18 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:37 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Torie



And just why would the Clintons want Edwards to take the silver?

Can't remember which show, but the rumor I heard is that Kerry and Edwards had a deal to let Edwards take SC, to get on the board. That way, Edwards can go the distance as Dean fades, and be Kerry's VP choice.


19 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:52 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
Edwards has publicly said he thought gays and lesbians should be allowed to adopt children.


20 posted on 02/04/2004 9:42:38 PM PST by Notasoccermom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson