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Ex-atheist describes near-death experience
Standard-Times ^ | 1/31/2004 | LINDA ANDRADE RODRIGUES

Posted on 02/04/2004 1:17:00 PM PST by yonif

DARTMOUTH -- A native son and newspaper carrier for The Standard-Times in Falmouth, Howard Storm went on to earn a master's degree from the University of California, Berkeley, and for 20 years was an arts professor at Northern Kentucky University. An avowed atheist, he believed that there was no such thing as life after death -- until the day in 1985 when he died and went to hell.

Speaking to about 125 people at Smith Mills Church last week, Mr. Storm became very emotional, often stopping to compose himself, as he described his near-death experience, which transformed his life.

In 1985, Mr. Storm, 38, and his wife, Beverly, were in Paris on the last day of an art tour. Buckled over by searing pain in the middle of his stomach, he was rushed to the hospital. Awaiting emergency surgery, he knew he was dying. He said good-bye to his wife and drifted into darkness.

Standing up, he realized he was between two hospital beds. He looked at Beverly, who was motionless, staring at the floor, sitting in the chair next to his bed. He spoke to her, but she didn't seem to hear.

As he bent over to look at the face of the body in the bed, he was horrified to see the resemblance that it had to his own face. But he knew that was impossible because he was standing over the person and looking at him.

Off in the distance, outside the room in the hall, he heard voices calling him. They were pleasant voices, male and female, young and old, calling to him in English.

"Come out here," they said. "Don't you want to get better?"

He stepped out into the hall, full of anxiety. The area seemed to be light but very hazy, and he couldn't make out any details.

He followed them shuffling along in his bare feet with the memory of pain in his belly, yet feeling very much alive. The fog thickened as they went on, and it became gradually darker.

Overwhelmed with hopelessness, he told them he would go no farther and that they were liars. He could feel their breath on him as they shouted and snarled insults.

Then they began to push and shove him about, and he began to fight back. A wild frenzy of taunting, screaming and hitting ensued. As he swung and kicked at them, they bit him.

Even though he couldn't see anything in the darkness, he was aware there were dozens or hundreds of them all around and over him and that his attempts to fight back only provoked greater merriment.

They began to tear off pieces of his flesh, and he realized that he was being taken apart and eaten alive, methodically, slowly, so that their entertainment would last as long as possible. In that wretched state he lay there in the darkness.

Suddenly remembering a prayer from childhood Sunday School class, he said, "Yea though I walk in the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me."

To his amazement, the cruel merciless beings were incited to rage by his prayer. They screamed at him, 'There is no God! Nobody can hear you!" But at the same time they were backing away. He realized that saying things about God was actually driving them away, and he became more forceful. They became more rabid, cursing and screaming against God, but in time, they retreated back into the distant gloom beyond his hearing.

Alone, destroyed, and yet painfully alive in this horrible place, he yelled out into the darkness, "Jesus, save me."

Far off in the darkness, he saw a pinpoint of light like the faintest star in the sky. The star became brighter and brighter. As it came closer, he realized that he was right in its path, and he might be consumed by its brilliance.

This was a living being approximately 8 feet tall and surrounded by an oval of radiance. The brilliant intensity of the light penetrated his body. Ecstasy swept away the agony. Tangible hands and arms gently embraced him and lifted him up. He slowly rose up into the presence of the light, and the torn pieces of his body miraculously healed before his eyes.

After his words of personal witness, Mr. Storm answered questions for an additional two hours.

"He told me that he has given this talk hundreds of times, but whenever he describes these creatures, he just comes apart," said the Rev. Michael Robinson, pastor of Smith Mills Church.

After Mr. Storm's near-death experience, he entered United Theological Seminary and was ordained as a minister of the United Church of Christ. Since 1991 he has been pastor of Zion United Church of Christ in Cincinnati. He documented his near-death experience in the book "My Descent into Death and the Message of Love which Brought Me Back," published in 2000.

Earlier in the day, the Rev. Storm spoke to about 30 area faith leaders at Smiths Mills Church on the topic "Bringing Passion of the Gospel into City Ministry."

"Jesus weeps for New Bedford," he said. "He can heal addictions, broken relationships and poverty. I broke every one of the Ten Commandments. Jesus can fix what's wrong with us."


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To: hope
In Ashton Idaho one winter night several years ago, A fire broke out from a propane leak, the fire started in the kitchen, all of the family got out except a 6 year old boy who's bedroom was beneath the kitchen where the fire broke out. The family had gathered outside the house and was in a panic knowing that the boy was still inside. Then the boy came walking around from the back side of the house. When the family calmed down they asked the boy how he got out, he said a white blob came in his bedroom and showed him the way out. The first question that comes to mind is "why was this boy saved and others who died in fires were not saved?" I don't know, but the fact is he was. Who are we to question gods will?
241 posted on 02/04/2004 8:47:37 PM PST by EastIdaho (Warning to tourists, do not laugh at the natives)
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To: Quix
Quix, I just saw a post of yours that your mother is suffering from Alzheimers. I'm so sorry to hear that.

My Dad died of Alzheimer's and now my Mother has it. My father was an agnostic. I once asked him if he ever thought about whether there could be life on other planets and he said "No". He never had a chance for salvation the way he was wired. Well, he sort of had a chance because my mother was really devout but it never rubbed off on him.

I was the last person to see my father alive and on his death bed I futively tried to "save him" by preaching to him. Actually he seemed to react to my preaching with some strange utterances as if he didn't like it or there was some demon inside. It probably was just that he didn't like me shouting in his face! Even if he could hear me the Alzheimer's had destroyed his brain to where he did not know what any words meant.

In any event, I then sat down and started to read the Bible to myself for the first time in probably 20 years as I had been a very weak Christian if one at all at that point with more doubts than faith. Five minutes later he stopped breathing and died. The experience of hearing myself preach aloud to my agnostic father actually saved me.
242 posted on 02/04/2004 8:49:48 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
I certainly so urge people as I have many times on this thread.

I also, when counseling folks who've lost someone due to suicide or some other dreadful reason and have some doubt about the eternal salvation of the lost one . . . will personally check with The Lord if it's OK if I proclaim them forgiven based on that Scripture:

John 20
22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

I don't pretend to know exhaustively what God means with that Scripture. But I fully intend to give God every opportunity to apply that Scripture as He sees fit in the lives of anyone He prompts me in my spirit to forgive based on that Scripture. He seems to give plenty of evidence in Scripture that He makes many of His choices and actions CONTINGENT on what we do and particularly what we say--and very particularly when we pray Scripture. So, I'm doing my part to apply that Scripture in prayer regarding questionable situations or situations needing an abundance of God's Grace.

Whatever God does in response, will automatically be perfect . . . in terms of his justice AND HIS GRACE AND LOVE.

In terms of the point of death . . . unless we've had such an emphatic EXPERIENCE WITH GOD ALMIGHTY OURSELVES such that OUR DOUBTS are forceably and fiercely removed for all time, we are also looking through a glass darkly. However, I have found that, Given Christ's death and Blood on The Cross . . . and Given God's Nature, it's much more of a safe bet to bet on His Grace than on his wrath.
243 posted on 02/04/2004 8:53:02 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
You may have the unglorified distinction eventually of carrying your biases, constructions on reality, skepticism, cynnicism to a very dark and uncomfortable place.

Hint, smugness, pride, intellectualism etc. are not in evidence there.

Extreme brokenness, despair and the like are the raging norm.

Just because I'm not willing to accept your mumbo jumbo doesn't qualify me as smug, despairing or inhabiting dark places. Rather, I tend to think that responses such as yours are the "raging" type. I merely stated my opinion.
Get a life.

244 posted on 02/04/2004 8:53:59 PM PST by stanz
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To: realpatriot71
Then your interpretations seem very strange, to me.

I hardly call ABUNDANT LIFE, ETERNAL LIFE dead.

I hardly call the Scriptures about Christ conquering the grave and death lying.
245 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:50 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Vinnie
What does eternity have to do with this thread?
I don't buy this story and that's what I said.
246 posted on 02/04/2004 8:57:24 PM PST by stanz
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To: realpatriot71
I think your research into the topic is lacking.

There are a variety of SIMILAR experiences

AND

There are a variety of TYPES OF NDE'S!

MANY OF THEM ARE CLEARLY USED BY GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS PRECIOUS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DRAW PEOPLE UNTO THEMSELVES, TURN THEM 180 DEGREES AROUND AND SEND THEM BACK INTO THIS TIME/SPACE DIMENSION TO DRAW MORE INDIVIDUALS TO THE SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS THE CHRIST.

I'm NOT ABOUT to throw rocks on that.

I do encourage people to be very discerning about NDE's because, as in many spiritual areas, there is, evidently, a counterfeit phenomena that some people evidently experience.
247 posted on 02/04/2004 8:57:54 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: EastIdaho
Wonderful!

THANKS.
248 posted on 02/04/2004 8:59:00 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
I've spoken with Real Patriot before, His views are consistent with Armstrong, who founded the World Wide Church of God, well known for its heretical views. After Armstrong died, the church itself reformed much of its ideas and is more in line with most evangelical protestant churches...

By the way, Good evening Quix!

249 posted on 02/04/2004 9:02:14 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: plain talk
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND CONCERN AND WORDS.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH . . .

1) We read the Scripture that says THE GATES OF HELL will not prevail against the church. All my life, I've had the image, so to speak, of the gates of hell CHASING THE CHURCH.

But GATES ARE ****DEFENSIVE****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amazing implications of that!!!! We shall see.

2) Lord Jesus, I don't know what this prayer at this point may avail. I can argue against it from several directions. Nevertheless, I know you. And I know you have incredible Love and more options than the rest of us might guess. I know that when you were 3 days buried, that you actually went into hell and TOOK CAPTIVES, CAPTIVE.

Lord, I believe that plain talk's father may have been saved as his spirit listened without being fought by a stubborn brain now more or less silenced with Alzheimer's. I pray so, Lord.

Regardless, perhaps plain talk with agree with me in prayer--and if not, I proclaim based on the Scripture in John that plain talks' father is forgiven all his sins by virtue of the shed Blood of Jesus and perhaps your allowing him to apply it to his life even at this late moment. In Jesus' Name, Amen.

Bless you for your kind words.

Bless you in your walk with Our Lord.

My mother's always been a bullheaded, cantankerous woman who terrorized most pastors. Mercifully, she had a heart of gold. She was just enormously misguided in a list of ways and ignorant of same but too proud and stubborn to ever be able to even see it regardless of the evidence. Sadly, Alzheimer's has blunted her more admirable traits while allowing her obnoxious ones to reign in full force. Am prayerfully doing what I can to try and condition her toward going along with whatever Dad and I say regardless. No small task, that. Prayers would be welcome. Thankfully, she's been a strong believer most of her life.
250 posted on 02/04/2004 9:06:39 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: stanz
Accepting or not my humble words wouldn't, in and of itself, amount to a lot.

Your tone, word choices etc. describe well enough your attitude, it seems to me.

I have been wrong more than a few times. Perhaps others disagree with me and agree with you. It would be interesting to know.
251 posted on 02/04/2004 9:08:34 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: mdmathis6
Thanks.

LIKEWISE.

I love this topic. Have for decades. Have read tons about it. Though am a bit out of date to SOME degree, not totally.

God has soooooo many fun things up His sleeve--it's crazy to say what He would and wouldn't do.

Especially for folks looking through a glass darkly to insist that they as a given individual have God's boundaries all scoped out on a topic. Sigh.

IMHO.
252 posted on 02/04/2004 9:10:53 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
I hardly call ABUNDANT LIFE, ETERNAL LIFE dead.

I'm not talking about "eternal life" but an "immortal soul," souls in the prresensce of God can live eternally, but souls in and of themselves are not eternal, only one is sternal the Holy Creater. The concept of an "immortal soul" is apostate and began with the father of lies himself - "yee surely will not die" was the first lie told to Eve. All apostate religions believe in an imortal soul, save one, Biblical Christianity (a peculiar people for this time).

I hardly call the Scriptures about Christ conquering the grave and death lying.

The Grave could not hold the Redeemer, for the Jesus was perfect and He was God, the grave cannot hold that which is eternal and perfect. The soul of man is created from clay and the breath of life - God's quickening - both are necessary conditions for a "living soul". When you die, the breath of life returns to the Creator, and the rest of the living soul becomes nothing more than "clay" again. The Bible is clear about this and the Bible does not lie.

253 posted on 02/04/2004 9:11:02 PM PST by realpatriot71 (It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
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To: Quix
There are a variety of TYPES OF NDE'S!

The God we serve is not the father of confusion. He has communicated His will to this world through His word, the Bible. The "spirits" are always to be tested based upon this word, and if they do not so testify according to the scriptures, then there is nothng from God in them.

The dead are dead.

254 posted on 02/04/2004 9:14:23 PM PST by realpatriot71 (It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
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To: realpatriot71
I think you strain at a gnat and swallow a camel

There's nothing in Scripture about the soul being even fractionally composed of clay nor even about such being necessary.

The Scripture even talks about God knowing us before we were formed in our mother's wombs.

Seems like a very strange tangential twisting of Basic Scripture, to me.

My eternal soul will live eternally in the Presence of God by virtue of Christ's Blood and my acceptance of it as covering for my flaws, sins . . . PRAISE GOD!

HE IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH. I don't have to be concerned with the mechanics of Eternal Life.
255 posted on 02/04/2004 9:14:51 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: realpatriot71
THE NDE'S I PAY ATTENTION TO ARE EXTREMELY CONGRUENT WITH SCRIPTURE.

That's quite enough for me.

Of course, I test the spirits.
256 posted on 02/04/2004 9:16:56 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Axenolith
Remember not to take a bath for a week.
257 posted on 02/04/2004 9:33:43 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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To: MHGinTN
"We know there is no supernatural, because it does not show up on instruments. Interesting to find the refutation of an argument right in the middle of the argument ...

Interesting because you made it up?

Science endevours to understand and explain, by virtue of logic and confirmable, repeatable experimentation. But every scientists realizes 100 successful experiments doesn't prove him right, and one unsuccessful can prove him wrong.

I'll take an effort like that over "We know there is a supernatural, because it was written about in a book and told to us by a guy who wanted 10% of what we earned."

258 posted on 02/04/2004 9:36:42 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
My my, you certainly went out of your way to make a spectacle of yourself! Hooray for you ... the meaning of the word 'supernatural' as used colloquially is the key to my comment you quoted. I won't bore you with any further comments ... your intellect is obviously far superior to any here at FR, in your opinion.
259 posted on 02/04/2004 9:49:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: BobS
Maybe with a spring that can detect the gravatational anomalies created by denser areas of the crust, otherwise, it's a change in the mass on the spring that changes the spring length...
260 posted on 02/04/2004 9:51:27 PM PST by Axenolith (<tag>)
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