Scientists Discover Where Snakes Lived When They Evolved into Limbless Creatures

Penn State ^ | 30 January 2004 | press release

[Modernman]

How do you know that? Because it is beyond your understanding?

Because when you compare certain passages in the Bible they are factually wrong if read literally and compared to reality.

[VRWC_minion]

If evolution is true, then death preceded sin and cannot be its penalty, and therefore Christ's death did not pay that penalty.

Jesus died for man's sins, not my pet turtle. The question is when did he create man.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

You really don't get it, do you? It is not "my" knowledge. It is truth that is available to anyone who cares to read it and understand it with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

You, on the other hand, are distracted by pride and the need for you to prove what is not within man's grasp or ability to prove.

You will be forever confounded if you refuse to give all glory to your Creator.

[js1138]

Creation and its description is neither parable nor metaphor.

That's your opinion.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

The question is when did he create man.

....and the answer is when He said He did. Any other theory or twisted explanation is to doubt His word.

[Old Professer]

It must have been easier to dig the burrow using limbs.

[js1138]

You, on the other hand, are distracted by pride and the need for you to prove what is not within man's grasp or ability to prove.

You will be forever confounded if you refuse to give all glory to your Creator.

And you, possessing perfect understanding, are without pride.

[VRWC_minion]

It conveys no useful message, moral or otherwise. I assume that forcing another creature to eat dirt is a rather old form of punishment and humiliation

Jesus let evil spirits enter into pigs without giving the pigs any consideration. God flooded the world killing all the life on earth for the sins of humans. God doesn't claim to be fair.

[js1138]

So it's all about power?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Where have I intimated perfect anything?

I make no apologies for taking God at His word and refusing to dissect it in an attempt to make it fit any theory devised by man.

Quite the contrary......I am humbled by that which passes my understanding. I also know that perfection eludes every person born to this earth , except One. That is, after all, what this is all about.

[VRWC_minion]

For the umpteenth time........when something is not to be interpreted literally, the inspired writer makes it very clear.

In this same chapter of Genesis, God asks Adam "Where are you?". There is nothing in the text to indicate that this question is a metaphor. So, in your opinion, God didn't really know where Adam was ?

[VRWC_minion]

....and the answer is when He said He did. Any other theory or twisted explanation is to doubt His word.

Show me.

[VRWC_minion]

So it's all about power?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

[js1138]

Where have I intimated perfect anything?

You have asserted that you are capable of perfectly interpreting the Bible. You know which parts are allegory, which parts are metaphor, which parts parable.

It is an indisputable fact that many here disagree with your interpretation, so either you are perfect or you are capable of error. Which is it?

[js1138]

I didn't think you would.

[CyberCowboy777]

I am not fearful of evidence, nor am I impressed with the limited evidence presented thus far.

The Theory of Macro Evolution has not been proved to me, the dating procedures I do not trust. Science as a whole has left me searching not satisfied in my questions.

Nor do I fully understand the reality of creation to parade myself as an oracle of knowledge and I distrust anyone who pretends to know the truth of origins in science.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I've shown you several times, but you insist on revisiting the same issue over and over.

If you want to play games and minimize the meaning and context of God's word, I will leave that to you.

As for myself and since I believe HE gave us the Bible to teach us (not confuse us) I will not spend a moment second guessing Him.

[js1138]

I will not spend a moment second guessing Him.

What is under discussion here is your word, not God's. You have placed yourself in the position of speaking for God.

[CyberCowboy777]

Your reality?

Is there life on other planets? I would say not - based upon my reality - what reality do you base your opinions?

Arrogance is the bane of science.

[PatrickHenry]

Let's not forget this:

It is necessary to determine the proper sense of Scripture, while avoiding any unwarranted interpretations that make it say what it does not intend to say. In order to delineate the field of their own study, the exegete and the theologian must keep informed about the results achieved by the natural sciences ...

Source: Message from the Pope, 1996 (on evolution).