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Oregon Measure 30 (Tax Increase) Expected to Fail
Various | Recent | Rep. Lane Shetterly, Julie Silverman

Posted on 02/03/2004 11:35:38 AM PST by cogitator

Measure 30 backers brace for worst
As election draws nearer, mood is bleak among school advocates

PORTLAND — With the Measure 30 tax vote looming, school advocates in Oregon say they are steeling themselves for its failure.

If voters turn down the three-year, temporary increase in the income tax on Feb. 3, schools stand to automatically lose $285 million.

Polls for the measure have suggested it will fail, and pro-tax advocates don't have the money to gear up for a last-minute all-out TV media blitz that might make the difference, leaving school advocates resigned to at least another year of budget cuts.

"We are feeling that it is probably going to fail," said Nellie Franklin, whose son is a senior at Burns High School in southeastern Oregon. "I thought, maybe people will start realizing this is real, but they are still thinking, 'Oh they have the money ratholed away somewhere.' "

The mood is just the opposite, though, for Measure 30 opponents like Dan Ziegler, who has founded the Corvallis Coalition for Responsible School Funding, and says his local school district needs to reduce spending on teacher salaries and benefits before asking for more money from taxpayers.

Some school districts were prudent in budgeting by assuming schools will get only $4.8 billion from the state, not the $5.2 billion they will receive if the tax increase passes, said Richard Burke, executive director of the state Libertarian Party, which also opposes Measure 30.

Burke argues that districts that drafted budgets based on the higher number were "irresponsible. They are the ones that have the pressure on them."

If the measure does fail, Oregon schools will find themselves in familiar territory. Last winter, Oregon voters turned down a similar tax measure, Measure 28, forcing about half of the state's schools to shut down early and prompting teacher layoffs statewide.

Lawmakers spent the longest legislative session in state history wrangling over how to fix the state's budget problems, caused by a decline in income tax collections, and finally agreed on a three-year temporary income tax surcharge, to raise $800 million for schools, social services and public safety.

But most schools didn't breathe easy even then, figuring that the Legislature's bipartisan decision would be referred to the ballot, and ultimately decided on by Oregon's perenially anti-tax voters.

That scenario came true, and now some school advocates find themselves struggling to stay optimistic in the last days before the votes are counted.

"I think there is a sliver of hope," said Mike Moran, the chairman of the Medford school board. "There has been some pretty blunt education of voters this time around. I think that it could go the right way."

And if it doesn't, in Medford, the school district has contingency plans in place: high school counselors may go, as well as the elementary school music program, and 10 teaching positions from the high school, Moran said.

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And this is an interesting perspective on Measure 30 from an Oregon Republican legislator:

Measure 30: Immediate solutions needed

Opponents of Measure 30, the Legislature’s balanced-budget tax plan, have raised several arguments against it that need to be rebutted. In the interest of informed public discussion of the measure, I have addressed and responded to some of the common arguments and questions, below.

You don’t raise taxes in a recession. Taxes are a drag on the economy and a tax increase could affect our recovery from recession, agreed. But cutting essential services now would be worse. Services such as education, human services and public safety are vital to a healthy economy. And demand for these services has risen, even while our general fund revenue has fallen at a rate not seen since the Great Depression.

On balance, the potential long-term harm from cutting services would be greater than any short-term negative impact that might follow from Measure 30.

Why are schools, police and the Oregon Health Plan targeted for cuts if Measure 30 fails? We spend 95 percent of our general fund budget on education, public safety and human services. If Measure 30 fails and the state loses hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, the cuts will necessarily fall on those programs and services because that’s where we spend the money.

The sky didn’t fall when voters rejected Measure 28 last year. What’s different this time? When Measure 28 was defeated, there were serious consequences. Schools cut school days. Courts closed. Thousands of violations and crimes were delayed or not even prosecuted. Oregon Health Plan benefits were slashed. And things would have been even worse if the Legislature had not borrowed $450 million to avoid shutting down whole agencies and programs.

There will be no more borrowing if Measure 30 fails. There are no more easy answers. Cuts in critical services will have to be made, and the consequences will be real.

Why doesn’t the Legislature just cut spending? The legislature has cut spending. After revenue started to decline in 2001, the Legislature cut $1.112 billion from the approved budget. Per-student spending fell 7.1 percent during 2002. The approved budget for 2003-05 is 5 percent less than the approved budget for 2001-03.

We don’t need a tax increase; we need to reform government. We need both. The 2003 Legislature made some major reforms. We reformed PERS, reducing the unfunded liability by $8 billion and cutting employer contributions. We ended “continuing service level” budgeting. We moved to streamline the regulatory process. We should always be reinventing government to provide better services at the lowest cost to taxpayers. Opponents of Measure 30 have offered some worthwhile suggestions for further reforms. But we have an immediate budget shortfall that won’t be fixed by long-term reforms. Only Measure 30 will provide revenue in this biennium to address our needs now.

Measure 30 presents voters with stark choices and complex issues. There may be no good time to raise taxes. But there’s no worse time than now to cut the essential services we need to move Oregon forward. That’s why I’m supporting Measure 30 and urge Oregonians to do likewise.


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The taxes vs. services debate focus moves from California and Alabama to Oregon today. Good luck to the people of the great state of Oregon!
1 posted on 02/03/2004 11:35:40 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
temporary increase in the income tax

Sure, I believe that...

2 posted on 02/03/2004 11:51:11 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: cogitator
Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.) all to make a cheap political point and save their knuckle-dragging constituents an extra $80/year.
3 posted on 02/03/2004 11:58:27 AM PST by diamondjoe
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To: diamondjoe
WTF do you know about my reasons for voting "NO"?
I don't see that you are even from Oregon, BTW it is $120+ in my bracket. It would appear from all the hype that you've bought into (whos the idiot?)that schools and cops are the only things my taxes pay for, BS there is so much waste it boggles the mind! And BTW the only time my knuckles drag is when I'm creeping thru the brush trying to get a clean kill shot!(at a deer that is).
If you want to vote "Yes" and you really are worried about funding, then when this thing goes down like the hindenburg wht don't you tear a big chunk off of YOUR paycheck and hand it on over!
4 posted on 02/03/2004 12:10:11 PM PST by enraged
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To: diamondjoe
Gee wiz, the nerve of the tax payers wanting their elected officals to live within their means.

Don't those tax payer know that their elected officals view them, and their hard earned money, as a bottomless pit of money that they can grab for any and all moronic tax wasting ideas that they can think of.

I do declare, the vile nerve of those tax payers.

5 posted on 02/03/2004 12:12:26 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: diamondjoe
Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.)

Do you really think so? I disagree with you; I think the failure of Measure 30 would send a great message to the rest of the country, to whit: "We don't believe you, legislators of (choose your state), when you say that more revenue is needed. We want you to keep cutting services until you can prove that we need what's left when you're done cutting!"

Or this message: "Let our school system go downhill. If families with kids don't like it, they can move to another state with better schools and better teachers!"

Or this message: "Why should we care about PUBLIC safety? I'm safe. Isn't that what matters most?"

Or maybe even this message: "If somebody is disabled, then it certainly won't matter if it takes the state a few extra days to process their welfare check. After all, they aren't really contributing to society as much as a normal person."

Oregonians should send a clear message. Go Beavers! Go Ducks!

6 posted on 02/03/2004 12:16:34 PM PST by cogitator
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To: enraged
It would appear from all the hype that you've bought into (whos the idiot?)that schools and cops are the only things my taxes pay for, BS there is so much waste it boggles the mind!

enraged, why does Rep. Shetterly say that 95% of the general fund budget in Oregon goes for education, public safey, and human services? Just curious.

7 posted on 02/03/2004 12:19:46 PM PST by cogitator
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To: diamondjoe
Actually my retired, fixed income parents stand to loose over $700 this year if it passes.

The Democrats (who control Oregon) should consider paying for vital public services out of the general fund and lay off the extorsion by levy tactics (give us more money, or the Teacher/cop/Firman get's the axe).
8 posted on 02/03/2004 12:24:47 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Eala
temporary increase in the income tax

Sure, I believe that...

But, it's true - temporarily raise the income tax now and in 3 years, raise it again, which negates this instance of it...

9 posted on 02/03/2004 12:24:54 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: diamondjoe
there are few conservatives in Oregon......but a whole lot of fed up people who are tired of paying teengage boys to pump gas for several more cents per gallon than other states, pay a huge income tax as well, as well as all the other taxes....

a would bet most of these people are probably working class democrats....

10 posted on 02/03/2004 12:26:20 PM PST by cherry
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To: enraged
Couldn't they just implement a sales tax instead? It is zero presently, right?
11 posted on 02/03/2004 12:32:25 PM PST by humboldtconservative (deport ALL illegals......immediately......)
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To: humboldtconservative
Makes cuts until it hurts...really bad.

Then cut some more. No new taxes.

(yeah, I'm not in Oregon but that mantra should be in all 50 states and DC)
12 posted on 02/03/2004 12:38:34 PM PST by hattend (Are we there, yet?)
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To: hattend
Make cuts until it hurts...really bad.

What's your definition of "hurt"? Who? Where? How? What do you value? What are you willing to lose?

13 posted on 02/03/2004 12:51:52 PM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
"We are feeling that it is probably going to fail," said Nellie Franklin, whose son is a senior at Burns High School in southeastern Oregon. "I thought, maybe people will start realizing this is real, but they are still thinking, 'Oh they have the money ratholed away somewhere.'"

Actually Oregonians are thinking that the state legislature continues to waste too much of the taxpayer's money. So why should the taxpayers give them even more money to waste by voting for a tax increase?

14 posted on 02/03/2004 12:53:36 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
Actually Oregonians are thinking that the state legislature continues to waste too much of the taxpayer's money.

The question therefore should be: Is the state government/state legislature of Oregon wasting too much of the taxpayer's money? And if they don't think they are (wasting the taxpayer's money), can the taxpayers show them where it's being wasted?

I don't know if they can; it would be nice if they could. Then the state legislature wouldn't have to cut people off from their Oregon Health Plan benefits, among other things that will be automatically cut when Measure 30 fails.

15 posted on 02/03/2004 1:01:45 PM PST by cogitator
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To: diamondjoe
Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.) all to make a cheap political point and save their knuckle-dragging constituents an extra $80/year.

Why doesn't the Oregon state government cut non-essential state programs and services instead of cutting school programs and vital public services? Why doesn't the Oregon state government threaten to lay off six-figure salaried bureaucrats instead of threatening to close or cut back programs that would hurt the children, the elderly, and the poor? Probably because nobody would care if non-essential state services were cut or if fat cat state bureaucrats lost their jobs. But people listen when legislators make their emotional pleas about protecting the children, the elderly, and the poor as they beg for more tax money to waste.

16 posted on 02/03/2004 1:14:50 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: enraged
I imagine you're one of the people who believes that Mannix truly does have a "secret plan" to somehow balance the budget while not raising taxes and not cutting essential services. (It's only after people like Mannix get elected that we learn that they don't consider education or public safety to be essential services.) Oh well, I'm sure Lars and Victor will make you feel better about yourself when this gets defeated. To heck with the kids, right? Right.
17 posted on 02/03/2004 1:15:30 PM PST by diamondjoe
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To: judgeandjury
Ok, what's the waste? Where is it? Can you name some programs? I doubt it--most people who spout that kind of rhetoric are simply regurgitating what Lars told them to think.
18 posted on 02/03/2004 1:17:58 PM PST by diamondjoe
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To: cherry
Oregon ranks pretty low in overall tax burden, actually.
19 posted on 02/03/2004 1:19:16 PM PST by diamondjoe
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To: cogitator
why does Rep. Shetterly say that 95% of the general fund budget in Oregon goes for education, public safey, and human services? Just curious.

Even if this figure is correct, it wouldn't necessarily mean that this money is being spent efficiently on education, public safey, and human services.

20 posted on 02/03/2004 1:23:09 PM PST by judgeandjury
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