[diamondjoe]

Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.) all to make a cheap political point and save their knuckle-dragging constituents an extra $80/year.

[enraged]

WTF do you know about my reasons for voting "NO"?
I don't see that you are even from Oregon, BTW it is $120+ in my bracket. It would appear from all the hype that you've bought into (whos the idiot?)that schools and cops are the only things my taxes pay for, BS there is so much waste it boggles the mind! And BTW the only time my knuckles drag is when I'm creeping thru the brush trying to get a clean kill shot!(at a deer that is).
If you want to vote "Yes" and you really are worried about funding, then when this thing goes down like the hindenburg wht don't you tear a big chunk off of YOUR paycheck and hand it on over!

[chiefqc]

Gee wiz, the nerve of the tax payers wanting their elected officals to live within their means.

Don't those tax payer know that their elected officals view them, and their hard earned money, as a bottomless pit of money that they can grab for any and all moronic tax wasting ideas that they can think of.

I do declare, the vile nerve of those tax payers.

[cogitator]

Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.)

Do you really think so? I disagree with you; I think the failure of Measure 30 would send a great message to the rest of the country, to whit: "We don't believe you, legislators of (choose your state), when you say that more revenue is needed. We want you to keep cutting services until you can prove that we need what's left when you're done cutting!"

Or this message: "Let our school system go downhill. If families with kids don't like it, they can move to another state with better schools and better teachers!"

Or this message: "Why should we care about PUBLIC safety? I'm safe. Isn't that what matters most?"

Or maybe even this message: "If somebody is disabled, then it certainly won't matter if it takes the state a few extra days to process their welfare check. After all, they aren't really contributing to society as much as a normal person."

Oregonians should send a clear message. Go Beavers! Go Ducks!

[Dead Dog]

Actually my retired, fixed income parents stand to loose over $700 this year if it passes.

The Democrats (who control Oregon) should consider paying for vital public services out of the general fund and lay off the extorsion by levy tactics (give us more money, or the Teacher/cop/Firman get's the axe).

[cherry]

there are few conservatives in Oregon......but a whole lot of fed up people who are tired of paying teengage boys to pump gas for several more cents per gallon than other states, pay a huge income tax as well, as well as all the other taxes....

a would bet most of these people are probably working class democrats....

[judgeandjury]

Conservatives in Oregon are making idiots of themselves as they show how willing they are to cut school programs, vital public services (fire, police, etc.) all to make a cheap political point and save their knuckle-dragging constituents an extra $80/year.

Why doesn't the Oregon state government cut non-essential state programs and services instead of cutting school programs and vital public services? Why doesn't the Oregon state government threaten to lay off six-figure salaried bureaucrats instead of threatening to close or cut back programs that would hurt the children, the elderly, and the poor? Probably because nobody would care if non-essential state services were cut or if fat cat state bureaucrats lost their jobs. But people listen when legislators make their emotional pleas about protecting the children, the elderly, and the poor as they beg for more tax money to waste.

[Tailback]

The schools in Oregon get an average of $10,000 per student per year right now. That means if there's 25 students per class, each classroom get 250,000 dollars. Why can't Oregon schools teach a class for 250,000 dollars? Oregon spends more on schools per student than both Washington state and California. The problem in Oregon isn't the conservatives, it's the RINO's and Dems.

[suzyq5558]

Do you live here? buzz off..........