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Ex-Presidents, Johnson Widow Call for JFK Film Probe
AP via TBO ^ | February 2,2004 | Lynn Elber

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:20:27 PM PST by John W

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Two former presidents and the widow of Lyndon B. Johnson are calling on the History Channel to investigate a documentary it aired alleging President Johnson was involved in the Kennedy assassination. Lady Bird Johnson said the film "falsely and irresponsibly" accuses her husband of conspiring to kill President Kennedy.

No accusation made against Johnson "has hurt as painfully," the 91-year-old former first lady said in a Jan. 29 letter. Her husband died in 1973.

Copies of her letter were sent to the chief executives of three companies that own A&E Networks, which includes the History Channel. The letters went to Bob Wright of NBC, Victor Ganzi of Hearst Corp. and Michael Eisner of The Walt Disney Co.

Former Presidents Ford and Carter also sent letters citing the documentary, "The Guilty Men," which aired last November as part of a series of History Channel specials on the Nov. 22, 1963 assassination.

Ford, noting he was the last surviving member of the Warren Commission that determined Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing Kennedy, called the History Channel documentary "reprehensible."

Alleging that Johnson, as Kennedy's vice president, was part of a conspiracy to murder him is "the greatest, most damaging accusation ever made against a former vice president and president in American History," Ford, 90, wrote in his Jan. 23 letter.

The letters were released Monday to The Associated Press by Tom Johnson, chairman of the LBJ Foundation and a representative of the Johnson family.

Calls to NBC and Disney were not immediately returned.

"We don't comment on correspondence with our chief executive officer," said Hearst spokesman Paul Luthringer.

Tom Johnson said he and three other former Johnson aides planned to meet Wednesday with executives of the History Channel and A&E Television Networks to press for an investigation and for its findings to be made public.

Nickolas Davatzes, president of A&E Television Networks, was expected to take part, History Channel spokeswoman Lynn Gardner said Tuesday.

Other Johnson aides scheduled to participate are Jack Valenti, now head of the Motion Picture Association of America; journalist Bill Moyers; and attorney Larry Temple.

"I'm puzzled, bewildered, that a distinguished enterprise like the History Channel would put on the air such garbage, such ugliness," Valenti said in November. "It makes one sick."

When the Kennedy series aired, the History Channel said in a statement that the point of view in "The Guilty Men" was "meticulously researched."

"By presenting different viewpoints we enable our viewers to decide to agree or disagree with them and to arrive at their own conclusions," the channel said.


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To: Polybius
You're looking at pictures of Tippit's skull. The earlier photo on this thread was of a group of photos that are of Tippit. That's why Tippit was killed, he had the same facial structure as Kennedy and when trimmed up looked a lot like Kennedy. The only problem was that Tippit had earlobes, Kennedy didn't.
161 posted on 02/03/2004 10:41:49 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: BigBobber
Face it, you're on the same team as a bunch of Castro-loving Hollyweidos and other assorted lefties. Their goal is to cover up for their little commie hitman - Oswald - and pin the blame on Republicans.

Earth to Bobber, Johnson was a tax and spend liberal Democrat.

162 posted on 02/03/2004 10:43:45 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: jordan8
Lyndon B. Johnson was not involved in the JFK assassination. He was, however, the most destructive politician this country has ever produced. His grave should be dug up, the coffin should be opened, and used as an outdoor toilet.

Here, here! Immediately after we roll FDR down the wheelchair-access ramp to the gates of Hell.

163 posted on 02/03/2004 10:44:43 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
......."Lunatic Fringe"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

.......making a comment deriding the 'single bullet theory'....

Hahahahahahahahahahah!

164 posted on 02/03/2004 10:45:14 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Ichneumon
No, there was not.

Yes there was. A Ford glass specialist confirmed that the windshield was immediately changed.

165 posted on 02/03/2004 10:47:04 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Rummyfan
I thought Arlen Spector was also involved with the Warren Commission report?

He was a lawyer on the staff of the Commission, but not a member of the Warren Commission itself.

166 posted on 02/03/2004 10:47:38 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Ichneumon
After watching both the Zapruder film and the reactions of the players along with the direction of Kennedy's head immediately following the fatal hit there's no way I can believe there was only one shooter.

And I'm not sold on the "jet effect" explanation either.

That doesn't even take into account the fact Oswald was a shady character who had federal and foreign connections, some of whom may have had reasons for wanting Kennedy dead.

There's too many coincidences and contradictions to accept him as the lone assassin.

167 posted on 02/03/2004 10:56:07 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: #3Fan
Yes there was. A Ford glass specialist confirmed that the windshield was immediately changed.

Oh yes. Of course. I forgot about the army of conspiracists who were swarming over every piece of evidence, "cleaning up" everything before they could actually be examined, unseen by anyone.

Silly me.

168 posted on 02/03/2004 10:58:09 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: #3Fan
You're looking at pictures of Tippit's skull. The earlier photo on this thread was of a group of photos that are of Tippit. That's why Tippit was killed, he had the same facial structure as Kennedy and when trimmed up looked a lot like Kennedy. The only problem was that Tippit had earlobes, Kennedy didn't.

Oooooookay.....

169 posted on 02/03/2004 10:59:01 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
First, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. You're the one who sounds paranoid.

Second, Connally was in the line of fire and as he and Nellie both said, hit by a different bullet than the one that hit Kennedy in the back. Their testimony is credible to me. My point was that a professional shooter takes pride in his work, one shot one kill. He would not want to harm women. This was no John Hinkley emptying his pistol and hoping to get lucky. Connally was hit when Kennedy leaned to the left.

Unlike you, I have no political axe to grind. I look at it like any other murder case. Personally, I wish Teddy had been in the jump seat that day instead of Connally.

170 posted on 02/03/2004 10:59:39 AM PST by MAWG
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To: Taliesan
It is a species of insanity. For years I've said that many people, some even apparently "rational" people, draw the conclusions they want to draw, and the real key to understanding such a person is to find out what he WANTS TO BE TRUE. These people don't want the simplest explanation (Oswald shot him.) to be true. Do you understand? THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE TRUE.

Insiders have a different story that the government, simple as that. The Zapruder shows three shots hitting Kennedy at once. Eyewitnesses say Oswald was at the theater when Tippet was killed. Kennedy didn't have earlobes, many of the autopsy photos show a man with earlobes. Doctors say Kennedy was shot in the front with a large exit wound to the back. Eyewitnesses say there was a hole in the windshield. A Ford engineer says the windshield was replaced immediately. Brain debris was thrown backward, not forward. Eyewitnesses say a loud shot came from the knoll. Doctors at Parkland say the back wound only went in two inches. Eyewitnesses at Tippet's murder say it was a bigger guy than Oswald that did it and his clothes didn't match what Oswald was wearing at the theater. A police car was seen honking outside of Oswald's house right before Tippet's murder. Thread patterns on the magic bullet don't match Kennedy's shirt or jacket...I could go on.

That's just too many anomalies for the government's story to be true.

171 posted on 02/03/2004 11:00:47 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
That's all fiction.
172 posted on 02/03/2004 11:03:38 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: BigBobber
If there was a government coverup, they would have destroyed evidence, not faked it.

They did!

The Zapruder film would have disappeared.

Parts of it did disappear. Frames have been removed if I'm not mistaken. They say they screwed up in developing it. Yeah right, the most important film of our time and they screw up?

The autopsy records would have disappeared.

The whole point of killing Tippet was to fake an autopsy.

The magic bullet would have disappeared.

The bullet was planted to show it was Oswald's rifle. Kennedy was actually shot from behind by a 7.5.

173 posted on 02/03/2004 11:07:40 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Taliesan
" That's all fiction "

No, it isn't. I've read all of it and more. You cant dismiss it because it doesn't support your theory.

174 posted on 02/03/2004 11:08:10 AM PST by MAWG
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To: The Duke
It is time to release all the secret files regarding the Kennedy death.
175 posted on 02/03/2004 11:09:04 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: oldironsides
It is way past time to do that. RFK himself, low-life scumbag that he was, told those closest to him that when he got elected in 1968, he was gonna reopen the case. And make no mistake about it, he would have been elected in 1968.
176 posted on 02/03/2004 11:12:16 AM PST by MAWG
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To: hoosierpearl
Thank you for mentioning this. The reason they went to the grand jury about Marshall's death, is that he was a good man and his family was upset at the ruling of suicide. That is why the prosecutor accepted the testimony of Billy Sol Estes. They didn't want Marshall's family to go on forever with the hurt of the "suicide" ruling. It wasn't to get back at Johnson or anyone else. It was not possible for Marshall to have committed suicide, but yet the suicide ruling stood on the public record for almost 20 years.

Marshall was murdered while pursuing Johnson for defrauding the ag markets.

177 posted on 02/03/2004 11:12:23 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Ichneumon
The only thing "nonsense" is the conspiracy-nut contention that the bullet had to be "magic". It did not, it was a straight-line shot through JFK and Connally, and the bullet came out far from "pristine", contrary to another false CN assertion.

How can a bullet enter the back at a 45 degree downward angle and exit farther up at the throat?

178 posted on 02/03/2004 11:13:58 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Not every bullet has to have an exit wound. When you look at the evidence, the bullet in the back didn't exit, the "bullet" in the throat didn't exit.

Fascinating. Then why didn't they show up on the neck X-rays?

Oh, right, they must have been those "invisible-to-X-rays" bullets that were so common in 1963. And the shooters (plural) who made those shots chose to use these magic bullets (!) while the other shooter(s) (that's 3+ so far) used ordinary metallic bullets because... um... they liked variety?

Oh, wait, I know -- because despite the fact that the conspiracy theorists all claim that even hitting a "moving target" at all was somehow an "impossible" shot, you'll have us believe that the "additional" gunmen were such perfect shots that they *knew for certain* that they could make shots on a moving target so precisely that they could put them into JFK's neck from two different angles so perfectly that they could create the illusion of a single in-and-out pass-through shot, thus "hiding" their handiwork, because they knew for certain that the doctors weren't going to probe the neck wound too thoroughly *and* that the magic un-X-rayable bullets would have no chance of passing through the neck and spoiling the illusion. What a perfect plan!

Do you guys even *listen* to yourselves?

Oops, wait, they found metallic bullet fragments in the neck wound after all:

EXAMINATION OF X-RAY FILMS

[...]

Films #8, 9 and 10 allowed visualization of the lower neck. Subcutaneous emphysema is present just to the right of the cervical spine immediately above the apex of the right lung. Also, several, small metallic fragments are present in this region. There is no evidence of fracture of either scapula or of the clavicles, or of the ribs or of any of the cervical and thoracic vertebrae.

The foregoing observations indicate that the pathway of the projectile involving the neck was confined to a region to the right of the spine and superior to a plane passing through the upper margin of the right scapula, the apex of the right lung and the right clavicle.

-- from the 1968 Panel Review of Photographs, X-Ray Films, Documents and Other Evidence Pertaining to the Fatal Wounding of President John E Kennedy on November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas

The four physicians on the panel were:

1) Carnes, William H., MD, Professor of Pathology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT, Member of Medical Examiner's Commission, State of Utah, nominated by Dr. J. E. Wallace Sterling, President of Stanford University.

2) Fisher, Russell S., MD, Professor of Forensic Pathology, University of Maryland and Chief Medical Examiner of the State of Maryland, Baltimore, MD, nominated by Dr. Oscar B. Hunter, Jr., President of the College of American Pathologists.

3) Morgan, Russell H., MD, Professor of Radiology, School of Medicine and Professor of Radiological Sciences, School of Hygiene and Public Health, The Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD, nominated by Dr. Lincoln Gordon, President of The Johns Hopkins University.

4) Mortiz, Alan R., MD, Professor of Pathology, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH and former Professor of Forensic Medicine, Harvard University, nominated by Dr. John A. Hannah, President of Michigan State University.


179 posted on 02/03/2004 11:15:32 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Oh yes. Of course. I forgot about the army of conspiracists who were swarming over every piece of evidence, "cleaning up" everything before they could actually be examined, unseen by anyone.

When the murderers are in the government in the positions they are in (Johnson, Hoover), they can easily manipulate the evidence.

180 posted on 02/03/2004 11:18:36 AM PST by #3Fan
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