Into the Sewer - WARNING: Article contains offensive language

Townhall ^ | Feb. 2,2004 | Jeff Jacoby

[Molly Pitcher]

And this article doesn't even mention last night's Super Bowl half-time "entertainment" and commercials...

[proud American in Canada]

Wow... great article...

And yeah, written before last night's "cr*ptacular," as some other Freeper put it so well.

[Molly Pitcher]

Yes, maybe it'll take something like last night to finally reach people. We're the consumers, and it's up to us to say "enough is enough." My opinion...

[Riley]

When I recently moved from one coast to another, I decided not to bother with TV service. I am not enormously offended by the crass language, there just isn't anything worth watching anymore, aside from a few of the premium channels.

I refuse to pay for the rest of the nonsense to get them.

[SerpentDove]

This is the first I heard of GWB dropping the F-bomb o Talk magazine. Not that it didn't happen--but I am skeptical, because if it did, why haven't the Democrats made a bigger deal out of it, even if just to defend their own?

[eiffel]

On the other hand, I've heard there were very little problems with obscenity in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

[headsonpikes]

Solution?

First, ******* kill your ********** ****** TV ****** set!

It's a start, anyway.

[lormand]

Every-once in a while, someone asks my wife and I if we will put a TV in our kids' bedrooms.

My reply is yes, when they turn 18, if then.

[Ben Hecks]

Read it again - it was Kerry that used the F word.

[kayak]

Some words our society needs to take seriously ...

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy - meditate on these things. ~ Philippians 4:8

[Between the Lines]

We're the consumers, and it's up to us to say "enough is enough." My opinion...

Already have... haven't had cable in 6 years and don't watch anything on network TV that isn't pure as snow. That leaves me with a handful of how-to shows on PBS left to watch. This doesn't bother me, but I am not sure any of the simpleminded mass consumers that thrive on this drivel could ever wean themselves from it.

Maybe we could get television listed as a life threatening addiction. No one could argue that is doesn't ruin lives.

[Between the Lines]

Read it again

And (in 1999) George W. Bush to Talk magazine: "They think it's like a high school election. . . . They've lost their f---ing minds."

[altura]

Yeah, I'm wondering too.

Never heard this mentioned before. Wouldn't it have been mentioned?

Particularly in view of the fact that there was a bit of flack about Kerry's use of the word.

Hope somebody can find out for sure.

[SerpentDove]

>>And (in 1999) George W. Bush to Talk magazine: "They think it's like a high school election. . . . They've lost their f---ing minds."<<

That's the first I've heard of it.

???

[LibWhacker]

Those were the days. Forty-four years later, vulgarity is well on its way to becoming a television mainstay.

Hate to think where we're going to be in another 44 years. Hollywood and the left will never stop trying to lower the bar on what is seen as acceptable primetime entertainment. So I expect, if things continue the way they're going, 44 years from now they'll be trying to offend mainstream Christians -- for whom they hold a special hatred -- with unimaginably nauseating acts of depravity, all available for viewing by young and old alike, throughout the day on a million different channels.

[narby]

(in 1999) George W. Bush to Talk magazine: "They think it's like a high school election. . . . They've lost their f---ing minds."

I hadn't heard about this before.

I'm one of the first to criticize the left. But I really hate it when our side becomes the hypocrite and criticizes John F'ing Kerry when Bush was the first to break into the F word in print.

There's been another recent glaring hypocracy from our side, but I can't think of it now.

The worst thing is, the hypocrite looses his right to moral outrage when they point out Kerry's words, but leave out Bush's.

Let's criticize the left, heavy and often. But if we're guilty of the same offense, then cut it out.

[Viking2002]

Hey, under certain circumstances, I can swear with the best of them; so much so, I tend to parallel Darren McGavin's character in 'A Christmas Story': I can invent profanity on-the-fly. LOL But throwing it around for simple shock value - on national television - is beyond the pale. It has nothing to do with free speech - it's anarchistic self-gratification at the expense of the cultural baseline.

[Ben Hecks]

Sorry, you're correct. I obviously didn't read past the Kerry quote - odd that this hasn't been pounded home ever since if it was a GWB statement.

[Between the Lines]

From: Tucker Carlson's "Politicians, Partisans, and Parasites"

In the summer of 1999, Tuker Carlson wrote a piece for Talk magazine on then-governor Bush that wasn't taken very well by his staff, because Carlson noted that Bush used profanity, something that apparently isn't appreciated by voters. Bush's campaign deputy finance chairman, Jack Oliver, called Carlson after the piece was published and screamed profanities. Carlson observed that the Bush team covered up any and all references to Bush using profanities, and many accused Carlson of lying, that Bush never says the "F-word" even though he does all the time according to Carlson.

Also reported here: Salon.com's "A noble hypocrisy"

Roberto Rivera points to Bush's Talk magazine interview with conservative journalist Tucker Carlson, in which Bush used the F-word and made light of Karla Faye Tucker, a Texas double murderer and religious convert who is much admired among evangelicals.

So it would seem Tuker Carlson says Bush did say the f-word with no evidence to bake up his statement which has been disputed by Bush.

I did find that Bush used the f-word in privately while describing Saddam Hussein and also in private referred to a New York Times reporter as an a--hole. Links below:

Townhall.com and Also at Townhall.com

[squidly]

When curse words obtain common usage, and lose their shock value, are they even curse words any longer? I'm not sure that they are.

Seems to me that we're adopting a new batch of curse, or taboo words, such as the N word, the C word, etc. See, I couldn't even type them there!