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So you think that there is no difference between Bush and Kerry?
President Match.com ^

Posted on 01/31/2004 8:27:03 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Edited on 01/31/2004 8:35:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Huck
Yes I am self employed. And you have managed to twist your question and arguement into something that does not even resemble any question we are facing. Please show me where President Bush is proposing raising taxes on anyone.
161 posted on 02/01/2004 8:14:58 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Huck
o when the President recently proposed 15 billion for low income marriage counseling

Better check your figures pal.

162 posted on 02/01/2004 8:53:12 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Minuteman23
If you think about it, maybe you can figure out why Bush's support of it is not a reason to support him.
<p? I've thought about it a great deal.One thing about it, if the Dems hate it,it cannot be all bad. It's a non starter. So, which one are you rooting for, Kerry,Dean or Edwards? Maybe you're a Hillary! fan..imagining Chief Justice William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. That's the ticket.
163 posted on 02/01/2004 9:15:54 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
I wasn't aware that I was beginning a debate with someone who labels anyone who is disgusted with Bush's spending and his support of the Patriot Act a supporter of the democrats. I have never voted for a democrat, and I never will. And I won't debate anyone who resorts categorizing me as a democrat supporter at the drop of a hat either.
164 posted on 02/01/2004 9:19:33 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: Minuteman23
The problem is this, simply, each time the Patriot act is brought up,particularly on this board, some sinister paranoid ramblings usually accompany it. Now, if you want to discuss it rationally , without shibboleths, great, I too have problems with it. If you want to get all thin skinned and injured, then no, you'd be wasting all of our time.
165 posted on 02/01/2004 9:38:48 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Minuteman23
The problem is this, simply, each time the Patriot act is brought up,particularly on this board, some sinister paranoid ramblings usually accompany it. Now, if you want to discuss it rationally , without shibboleths, great, I too have problems with it. If you want to get all thin skinned and injured, then no, you'd be wasting all of our time.
166 posted on 02/01/2004 9:39:07 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
Sorry about the double post, y'all.
167 posted on 02/01/2004 9:39:58 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: McGavin999
Ah, but you see, when they "tax the rich" they are taxing you.......

I read the entire paragraph following the above beginning. You could have simply posted the first sentence, as above.

The gov't raises the taxes on the rich, the business owners, because they take less hits for it, than if they raised taxes on the actual masses of voters. Each person has only one vote. So, why raise the taxes on 100 "average income" schmoes, when they can generate the same amount of tax revenue by raising the taxes on ONE rich dude (or dudette).

The rich person does not dig into their own pockets to make up the extra tax, no, they simply raise their prices accordingly. So, in essence, the average shmoe does get the tax hit, only in a circumspect way, and they then feel happy that the rich guy's tax is raised, and not their own. Stupidity or blissful ignorance, you decide.

168 posted on 02/01/2004 10:02:08 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
That is officially my new favorite graphic (I'm retiring billary dancing on the beach).
169 posted on 02/01/2004 11:29:04 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: gatorbait
I'll borrow part of a post that another freeper (Joanie F) wrote a couple days ago:

I voted for someone who told me that he stood for responsible, minimal governmentt. What I got was irresponsible, expanding government.

Since the blessed Reagan era, I have been betrayed twice. The first time was by Bush #1. But his betrayal wasn’t nearly as painful as his son’s. He wasn’t entrusted with cleaning up the stench created by eight years of the most traitorous, inept, immoral, socialist administration in our history. Bush #2 was entrusted with the job of leading us back toward, if not back onto, the path our Founders laid out.

He lost his way, and is dragging us – kicking and screaming -- further into the wilderness.

This president has supported virtually every left-wing socialist program that has come across his desk. And he’s even invented some himself.

This administration has spent more on entitlement/social programs (both existing and newly-created) than its free-spending, card-carrying admitted socialist predecessor.

This administration has capitulated to the anti-education teachers unions and stolen significant constitutional power from local school districts – enhancing the already abusive power of the Department of Indoctrination.

This administration has attempted to buy the votes and approval of its ideological enemies (fat chance!) by introducing amnesty for illegal aliens and increased funding for the National Endowment of the (more often than not degenerate, anti-Western civilization) ‘Arts’.

This administration has allowed the mass overseas migration of our manufacturing sector to be labeled ‘progress towards a more cerebral economy’ and has smugly sat back, nodding its head in apathetic agreement.

This administration has betrayed Taiwan in order to maintain the status quo with our most deadly ideological enemy.

This administration has allowed unelected, unaccountable monetary policymakers to manipulate free markets, to declare the laws of economics no longer valid, and to use magic tricks and semantics to redefine the dollar as nothing more than a promissory note backed by nothing more than the good faith of a government that has lost all integrity.

etc....

All of the above (and the dozens, if not hundreds, of other similar atrocities that have received the Bush administration’s stamp of approval) are either unconstitutional, or liberty/sovereignty/national security destructive. And there is one thing they all have in common: they are the enemy of conservative convictions.

All of these things are true and none of them are explained on this simplistic chart. What's your opinion of them?

170 posted on 02/01/2004 4:43:32 PM PST by Minuteman23
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To: Minuteman23
All of these things are true and none of them are explained on this simplistic chart. What's your opinion of them?

Before I comment, are you really RiflemanSharp with a new handle? The posting and comment style seem eerily familiar.

171 posted on 02/01/2004 5:29:07 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
I don't know who RiflemanSharp is, but I've been me since I first started here in '99.
172 posted on 02/01/2004 7:32:05 PM PST by Minuteman23
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To: NYpeanut
Bump
173 posted on 02/03/2004 9:49:27 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Bush has won two wars, Kerry is French......'nuff said)
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