Stick With President Bush In November (Good Reasons NOT To Stay At Home) (My Title)

Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 01/31/04 | Henry Lamb

[kitkat]

***Absolutely true! Look at what both parties are promising.!! Just get elected, that's the ticket! Who cares what happens to the country afterwards.***

Why are you replying to ilovew with that quote? SHE did not say that. Be careful how you quote people.

[NittanyLion]

**Neither party cares about the future of America.**

If you truly believe that, I wonder why you stay in America at all.

What a very odd statement. Must one love a party in order to love their country? Or is it preferable to endorse a party because its course is of benefit to the country you love?

I don't mean to engage in hyperbole, but equating love of one's party to love of one's country is characteristic of totalitarian regimes, not free nations.

[tommix2]

Lamb says the country is almost evenly divided. We do not know that. It is all based on polls that are presented as if they were reliable. The polsters sell these polls as if they were reliable, and some of the sponsors of the polls have an agenda, and may skew the poll results. The polls are mostly based on telephone interviews which excludes all voters who cannot be reached on the phone. People who have answering machines, people with caller ID, people who are usually out, are not likely to be included in the poll.
In other words, generally, busy people are not included in the polling.
So let us remember that the poll results may be way off.

[kitkat]

***I still challenge you or any other freeper to tell me a Democrat candidate who is for stopping illegal immigration. Can't name a candidate? I didn't think so.***
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And I challenge you to tell me if Bush is going to propose closing the borders, withdrawing goodies from illegals and sending millions back home. NO? Then you are no better off than I. You have no one to vote for either, if you love America.<<<

Swampfox, that's a total twisting of the facts. If you honestly believe, as you just said, that Bush and all the Democrats are the same when it comes to "closing the borders," then you ignored Bush's tremendous record on protecting the people from terrorists.

So, again, if you truly believe that they're all the same, why wouldn't you choose to vote for the man who protects the lives of his citizens?

[ilovew]

I didn't say that you must love one of the parties. Nor do you even need to endorse a party. But if anyone truly believes that neither party cares at all about America then it seems to me it would be a hopeless matter because that would mean that no president has ever cared about our country.

[ilovew]

That still has nothing to do with my suggestion to contact congress members.

[Tamzee]

So by having freepers and others stay home on election day we may be saddled with a Democrat candidate who not ONLY will make the immigration matter WORSE, but will ALSO be soft on terrorism.

Worse, in my opinion...Kerry looks no different than the leftists who actually despise America and want to see her subjugated to international control. I wonder if he would fly the flag upside down at the White House?

[ilovew]

Well, as long as you're writing your representatives then I believe you are contributing to democracy. And as long as it doesn't make you unhappy thinking about the fact that you can't recall every politician you don't like, then have at it. I'd hate for you to make yourself upset but if it's not having that effect on you, then I don't suppose there's any problem with it.

[NittanyLion]

But if anyone truly believes that neither party cares at all about America then it seems to me it would be a hopeless matter because that would mean that no president has ever cared about our country.

I suspect the other poster's point is that the present-day political parties predicate their actions on retention of power as opposed to any real principles. I'm sure they rationalize their decision by believing if they remain in power - even at the cost of dearly held principles - the country will still be better off than if the other party won power.

To some extent that's true, but slowly adopting the other party's principles still takes the nation in the wrong direction.

[ghostrider]

And your proof is?

I was once a financial officer in one of the major party local organizations and have helped in numerous campaigns. I saw where the funds came from and wrote checks dispensing the funds. The checks went to the chosen ones and the chosen ones got that way if they towed the line. That is common knowledge along with the loyalty oaths that they sign. If you are really interested, then research it for yourself.

[Peach]

Well said, kitkat.

[ilovew]

**I suspect the other poster's point is that the present-day political parties predicate their actions on retention of power as opposed to any real principles.**

I suppose I can see why you might think that. But I believe that politicians usually have America's best interests at heart, even if they go about doing things the wrong way. I certainly don't agree with every politician and I don't even agree with President Bush on everything but I do think that even the most misguided politicians believe they're doing what's best for the country.

[hoosiermama]

"the liberal leadership in black political circles (primarily the Jackson machine and the Sharpton machine) do not want to let any votes slip to the GOP. Their hold on the black vote is the entire basis of their power. If they cannot deliver the black vote for Dims, they've over and done with"

It's not just the power it's the M-O-N-E-Y. Their livlihood is based on keeping the black person in the ghetto! What scholarship do JJ support? Has he come out in support of family values.....just the opposite. What drug abuse programs have evolved because of his actions.

Look at his standard of living! It's always someone else's fault. Just make sure you write out the check to JJ.

[hoosiermama]

I also think he is not pandering.....IMO he is color blind.....He appoints good people who can and will do the job...He could care less if they were orange with purple stipes.....Another area in which he has lead by example not rhetoric. Bigots (of any color) just don't get it.

[beckysueb]

It was. LOL

[hoosiermama]

You know I'm still waiting for your plan. We have several million illegals in this country....What are you planning on doing with them? A plan....That shouldn't be so hard for your superior mind to some up with.

Signed
Kindergarten with an 140+ IQ (And I get it)

Oh and you forgot BUSHBOT!

[NittanyLion]

But I believe that politicians usually have America's best interests at heart, even if they go about doing things the wrong way. I certainly don't agree with every politician and I don't even agree with President Bush on everything but I do think that even the most misguided politicians believe they're doing what's best for the country.

Even the best intentions, if misguided, are ultimately damaging to the nation. If we characterize both parties as endorsing misguided intentions (and I think we can safely do so) then where does that leave us? With two parties who are contributing to the decline of our country, is where.

[hoosiermama]

Yeah and I had two grand fathers who served. One at Valley Forge....He spied in the Hessian Camp (remember the Christmas Attack---that was because of his bravery) The other served at Fort Pitt......SO there!

But I had other relatives (German) who snook across the Texan border just so they could have a better life for their ancestors. Guess that makes part of me illegal too.....

[ilovew]

I don't believe that both parties endorse misguided intentions. At this point in time, the most important thing to me is who will keep this country from being attacked again? I believe President Bush will because he knows what needs to be done. At any rate, someone has to win the election this November and it seems to me that the best you can do is choose the lesser of two evils, whoever you decide that is.

[NittanyLion]

Yeah and I had two grand fathers who served. One at Valley Forge....He spied in the Hessian Camp (remember the Christmas Attack---that was because of his bravery) The other served at Fort Pitt......SO there!

You must be 200 years old! Wow!!!

*grin*