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This Tues. is Missouri's OPEN Primary - Repubs will vote in 'RAT primary.


1 posted on 01/30/2004 1:51:22 PM PST by rface
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I want the Bishop to cover the Alter, come out in Purple Robes and read John F'n Kerry out of the Church, Bell, Book, and Candle, in the traditional way, lying, obfuscating, opportunistic, commie that he is.
2 posted on 01/30/2004 1:59:42 PM PST by Little Bill (The pain of being a Red Sox Fan.)
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Catholic Archbishop of St. Louis (Raymond Burke) would refuse communion to John Effing Kerry

Because he's Jewish?

3 posted on 01/30/2004 2:04:46 PM PST by lambo
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I might give him a blessing or something

That's pretty funny. Non-Catholics may not know that when Catholics line up to go forward for Communion, sometimes they have a little kid in hand because they're too young to leave back in the pew. The priest customarily blesses the kid, who is too young to receive Holy Communion, partly I suspect so the kid won't feel left out.

There's at least some implication in the bishop's comment that Kerry hasn't yet reached the age of reason.

5 posted on 01/30/2004 2:26:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Wednesday in St. Louis, Kerry said that he shares the Catholic Church's anti-abortion views as an article of faith. But as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

It is impossible to equate abortion with murder on a moral level and NOT have that translate to a belief that abortion should be illegal... unless you perhaps believe that MURDER should be legal--which would violate the Declaration of Independence.

8 posted on 01/30/2004 3:00:07 PM PST by MegaSilver
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would refuse communion to John Effing Kerry

I would believe it if I saw it with my own eyes. It's easy to say what you would do when the odds are against you being in that position.

11 posted on 01/30/2004 3:36:25 PM PST by TheBattman (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

Let me reword that for clarity.

As a public official, if he legislates against the teachings of the Church, he is no longer a Catholic.

I wonder what part of the above he doesn't understand.

13 posted on 01/30/2004 4:17:35 PM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: rface; Little Bill; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; ...
Wednesday in St. Louis, Kerry said that he shares the Catholic Church's anti-abortion views as an article of faith. But as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

"The bishop said that he acted for two reasons. One was to warn Catholic legislators that their unjust acts were spiritually harmful to them — "a grave sin." The other was to prevent "scandal": that is, weakening the faith and moral resolution of others by one's bad example. Having made every effort to persuade pro-abortion Catholic legislators to fulfill their obligations in justice to the unborn, Bishop Burke articulated the obvious: Any Catholic who exercises political power to expose a disfavored class of human beings to unjust killing sets himself against the very faith he claims to share. The Church cannot permit such a person to pretend to share in the faith he publicly defies. By receiving communion — the sacrament of unity — pro-abortion Catholics are pretending exactly that. The bishop has called a halt to the pretense."

Leading His Flock: Has the new archbishop of St. Louis crossed a line?

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


14 posted on 01/30/2004 4:34:58 PM PST by NYer ("One person and God make an army." - St. Teresa of Avila)
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Des, since the post is all about St. Louis, I presume one of the ladies in the picture is YOU. Which one?
27 posted on 01/30/2004 6:28:32 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: rface
"I would have to admonish him not to present himself for communion," said Burke. "I might give him a blessing or something," he said. "If his archbishop has told him he should not present himself for communion, he shouldn't. I agree with Archbishop (Sean P.) O'Malley (of Boston.)"

Did Archbishop O'Malley say that Kerry shouldn't receive Communion? Did I miss something?

Here's a great quote from Archbishop O'Malley when he was bishop of the Fall River diocese:

I will not vote for any politician who will promote abortion or the culture of death, no matter how appealing the rest of his or her program might be. They are wolves in sheep’s garments, the K.K.K. without the sheets, and sadly enough, they don’t even know it.

If I were ever tempted to vote for simply selfish reasons, tribal allegiances, or economic advantages rather than on the moral direction of the country, I should beat a hasty retreat from the curtain of the polling booth to the curtain of the confessional.


49 posted on 02/01/2004 6:42:09 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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