VANITY: The best way to keep America a sovereign free nation is to keep the Democrats out of power!

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[Jim Robinson]

Will Bush solve the illegal immigration problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the government spending problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the campaign finance problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the drug war problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the nation's education problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the so-called healthcare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the so-called environmental problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the social security problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the medicare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush defend America from those bent on destroying her? You'd better bet your sweet bippy he will.

Will any of the Democrats defend America? Hell no they won't. They'd rather turn us over to the U.N. They'd surrender to the French Foreign Legion if given the chance.

Will Bush appoint conservative judges? Yup!

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, appoint conservative judges? Yeah, right. And hell will freeze over tomorrow.

Will Bush continue reducing taxes? Yup.

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, raise your taxes as soon as they possibly can if given the opportunity and continue raising them until hell freezes over? Yup.

Will Bush defend the right to life? Check

Will Bush defend marriage between a man a woman? Check

Will Bush defend the right to keep and bear arms? Check

Will Bush say no to Kyoto? Check.

Will Bush say no to a world court? Check.

Will Bush say no to the U.N.? Check.

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, remove our national sovereignty and subjugate America to world government? Just as quickly as they possibly can if given the opportunity.

Will any other person be elected to the Presidency in 2004 other than Bush (God willing) or a Democrat? Obviously not.

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me to allow the America hating, freedom hating Democrats back into power now that we've kicked them out.

Say yes to sovereignty for America and continued freedom for all Americans.

Say no to the RATS!!

[Jim Robinson]

Work the primaries. Work the farm teams. There is no other way. There are no shortcuts.

[Indy Pendance]

We are not fighting at a river. We are fighting for liberalism versus conservativism. Where can we make the biggist impact? Where can we get the conservative ideals back? Is it through electing dems? Or is is through electing the most conservative people in our own states? Face it, one man will not change this country. We can't get anything done on a government level UNLESS we have the states support. One man isn't going to do it, unless he has the backing of the majority of states. So, to blame everything on bush is just pie in the sky frustration. We have to start at the local level. In the meantime, we have to hold onto federal power. Come on, you all are too savvy to not see this. It's a game, we have to be better at the game. It's time we win this game. Voting out a president isn't going to gain you anything. You all have to think the total picture. That's your individual states, their contribution, and the effect many states have on the federal decisions. One man can not stem the tide of destruction of 70 years of liberalism in three years.

[Indy Pendance]

Then work at your state and local level. That's where the real power starts.

[citizen]

A nation without borders is not a nation. Everything else is a moot point.

I wish more here would wake up to that stark reality.

I agree with you - except I can't actively work for the Dims, all we dislike about the spineless Repubs will only be worse under Liberal control. Bush has done a lot of good but not so good too.

But assisting in some close Repub victories might serve to hold down the Republican uncontroled spending or move us to some policy to get serious on the border and get some action on deporting the illegals caught in-country, might spur Bush to actually speak out with passion on the Dim unConstitutional blockage of federal judge appointees.

As it is now, Republicans spend big, all but a few are silent or against us on the border issues and Bush is afraid to challenge the Dims on their unConstitutional acts against his judge appointees. Lil Tommy and Chuckie and Hillary! and Patrick are just too formidable I guess.

***an ex-Republican base voter***

[George W. Bush]

There's another thing driving the LP, however, and that's the specific desire to hurt the Republican Party.

Because they believe that their confused libertinism is somewhat similar to conservative libertarianism. And because the GOP has, as a party, been more instrumental in tougher drug laws.

[He Rides A White Horse]

LOL. Well, I was referring to not surrendering to the tyranny of the left.

I certainly do not wish to do that as well.

You know of course that the left can't wait to get back in power so they can immediately grant amnesty and full citizenship including voting rights to all illegal aliens?

Mr Robinson, let me ask you a most serious question........do you think that after three years, these people are going to honor the time limit set?

[He Rides A White Horse]

What's your strategy?

It's a fair question.........believe me, I've developed a massive headache trying to formulate one.

[George W. Bush]

JimRob: Work the primaries. Work the farm teams. There is no other way. There are no shortcuts.

Indy: Then work at your state and local level. That's where the real power starts.

I keep telling people this. I cannot find any state or local conservatives to work for or vote for. It's all just dried up. I can't yet detect any candidates with evenly slightly Republican tendencies, let alone a conservative.

I'm hoping it's just my area. This is one of the all-Red states, you know. In fifteen years, I've never seen such apathy and discouragement from conservatives. I thought it was just me. But it isn't. Well, still a few days left for candidates to sign up for the primaries but it's not looking good.

[George W. Bush]

Lil Tommy and Chuckie and Hillary! and Patrick are just too formidable I guess.

Three words: Rove, Frist, Lott.

[Indy Pendance]

Seriously, have you ever thought to run? I'll bet you know way more about politics than Joe Schmoe in your area. If you really want to change things, what better person? I'll bet you'd make an awesome town chairman or whatever it's called in your area.

[goodnesswins]

"A nation without borders is not a nation."

No...it's a nation with a DEMOCRAT President, which you "independents" are intent on assuring happens. REEAAALLLL SMART. /sarcasm

[He Rides A White Horse]

Phase one would certainly consist of massive firings at the Immigration Naturalization Service (INS). As well as other inept agencies.

An example of this type of reluctance to houseclean is Clinton holdover Tenet. I truly wonder at times if he isn't still working for the last administration.

[He Rides A White Horse]

How can the President convince anybody he is serious about revamping immigration and that it 'different' now with Clintonites still running the show over there. No conservative in their right mind would feel at ease.

[Jim Robinson]

I'm not privy to Bush's planning circles so have no idea what his strategy is. I can see at least a couple of possible short term outcomes of his proposal though.

One is that it will stall the issue until next term when we may have a stronger congressional majority. In the end, it's the Congress's responsibility to decide the issue.

Second, it does get the people riled up and they're communicating their dissatisfaction to their Reps. Now it'll be on the congressional radar screen where it wasn't before.

And the debate begins. Tancredo has already put up a counter proposal. And the Democrats have rolled out theirs. The Tancredo proposal looks like a compromise with Bush's. The Democrat proposal looks like a total unconditional surrender to Mexico.

I don't know about you, but I think I'd trust Bush, Tancredo and the Republicans in Congress to do a better job for us on this issue than the Democrats at this point.

And by the way, this issue may even bring California to the Pubbie side. The people of California will reject the Democrats illegal immigrant amnesty and immediate citizenship with voting rights plan.

[Indy Pendance]

Why don't you run for office? Seriously, get involved. Typing away on a web site isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. Why not lead with your ideas? Seriously, you have way more smarts than most in your area I'm willing to guess. So, instead of bitching and moaning, get moving. What you say? Get moving, someone has to, why not you? What better way to get your ideas moving?

[citizen]

--Imagine a force if conservatives used the republican party to advance conservative causes.--

The Republicans in office ain't listening to you, how you going to make them listen?

[George W. Bush]

Not again (incumbent). I'm done. So is everyone else I know. Can't get anyone to run. Maybe hold onto a couple school board members. If that.

It's appalling.

[ovrtaxt]

Work the primaries. Work the farm teams. There is no other way. There are no shortcuts.

Such as Club for Growth and rlc.org. Any others that you know of? It would be a good thing to promote.

As far as the GOP itself, I'm not sending a dime. Government is the threat, regardless of who's in charge. Control freaks are control freaks. Sure, the GOP is more palatable in the big picture, but they are making some very disconcerting decisions.

They need to be aware of the acute discontent among those of us who ACTUALLY VOTE. A good scare would go a long way, IMO. Perhaps an avalanche of Tancredo write-ins for the primaries, or something symbolic but ultimately harmless.

If that doesn't work, look for mass abandonment. They will have nobody to blame but themselves.

[Indy Pendance]

Run for office. Apply for secretary. Do you think typing on an internet chat forum will make a difference? Or do you think the secretary working directly with the politician will have a bigger impact? Get off your butt and start doing, what if's aren't going to make it. Do something to make it happen. Get involved, and not just typing stuff on a site. It's way more than that.

[Indy Pendance]

Why don't YOU run??????