The Dems have just raised the stakes. They want to allow all those immigrants to be able to bring their relatives in with them.
( Look out...)
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Pres. Bush's proposal will end up looking meek and mild compared to that of the looney left's proposal.
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Democrats offer plan on aliens The headline itself should be the news...they offer a plan!?!?! Astonishing... What happened to the tried and true method of bashing others people's plans?
3 posted on
01/29/2004 11:23:16 AM PST by
smith288
(If terrorist hate George W. Bush, then he has my vote!)
To: Cyropaedia
War in the US within 10 years. Civil or race, take your pick.
4 posted on
01/29/2004 11:24:19 AM PST by
Stopislamnow
(VIOLENCE!!!! A stone age solution to space age problems. It works!)
To: JustPiper
Here is an aaaaacccckkkkkk bump.
To: Cyropaedia
You should be supporting the Bush plan. It's less damaging than the 'rat plan.
6 posted on
01/29/2004 11:28:47 AM PST by
WayneM
(Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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I was hoping this was the Democrats plan for space aliens
ala Hoagland. Frankly their plan or the Bush plan is pretty much tweedle dum or tweedle dee. Of course we wont get to mull over any other plan since both political parties are beholding to the monied entities who pull all the strings!
7 posted on
01/29/2004 11:29:13 AM PST by
claptrap
To: Cyropaedia
Democrats propose allowing foreign-born minors who are here illegally to stay in the United States, attend college and eventually earn legal status. Democrats said that "at minimum" they support a bill, already approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, to allow states to grant in-state college tuition rates to illegal-alien students.Now would someone explain to me how they are going to afford college on the "low pay from jobs Americans don't want?" How about giving in-state tuition to out of state citizens?
That bill would also authorize federal officials to halt deportation of such students and allow the students to eventually become permanent U.S. residents.
And you would think the subsidized tuition (by the taxes of citizents, not illegals) would be enough, but nooooooooo, we have to throw in citizenship? Why not take the education back to Mexico or wherever, and improve their own countries? That sounds like a fair trade to me.
Mrs. Pelosi said if Mr. Bush were serious about improving the system, he would call for immediate action on the House counterpart to that Senate bill, as well as another House bill that would allow 500,000 illegal agricultural workers to become legal permanent residents.
And when those 500K discover that they don't like low paying agricultural work, and refuse to do it? Do we repeat the excercise for the next wave of migrant illegals?
Democrats also propose enhanced family-reunification provisions. They seek reinstatement of a law that would allow illegal immigrants, sponsored by immediate family members who are U.S. citizens, to stay in the United States and apply for legal status, instead of being forced to return to their home countries before seeking legal admission.
Reunification works both ways. If the trip across the border is so easy, maybe they should just drive over the border and visit those third cousins etc. instead of assuming that they can only come across the border to the US.
To: JustPiper
PING
To: Cyropaedia
Bush gave the 'rats an opening to move to the right of him on immigration and they veered left as anticipated.
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This is the biggest problem with Bush's inane initiative.
No matter how bad a bill the republicans come up with, the socialist liberals will take Bushes speech as a concession that they can demand more! They will not be satisfied until there are NO borders and the communist of the world have overwhelmed American culture and government norms.
The socialist liberals welcome the third world's invasion, they see it as the key to their destroying America and seizing power.
This is why they are so damn determined to deprive us of arms, they fear that at some point we might revolt against their giving away our country in pursuit of their intended coup.
Bush should be ashamed of himself for giving them this opening.
19 posted on
01/29/2004 12:06:47 PM PST by
Richard-SIA
(Nuke the U.N!)
To: Cyropaedia
They could put Kucinich in charge! He has direct contact with the mother-ship!
Oh, not that kind of aliens - I only saw the headline...
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The Dems have just raised the stakes.All this talk by Bush about Mars and illegal aliens is just designed to stampeed the dems into revealing themselves as flaming liberals. All Bush has to do is float a trial balloon, and the dems have to top it.
36 posted on
01/29/2004 1:32:24 PM PST by
js1138
To: Cyropaedia; rmlew; Clemenza; PARodrig; nutmeg; firebrand
Well this takes care of any illusions that Rove may have had that Hispanics would vote for Republicans. This plan practically insures that the option of voting Republican is sunk. At least as far as Mexican hispanics are concerned.
By raising the stakes the democrats have made the Bush plan mild by comparison. The corporations won't mind as their support has always been predicated on a source of cheap labor to drive wages down. They will back whichever party is willing to sell more of themselves.
America is becoming a third world country day by day and our leaders keep tripping over each other to see that it happens as soon as possible.
41 posted on
01/29/2004 1:42:56 PM PST by
Cacique
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Did I hear someone say
"Jeez, telebob, you were right all along. This whole illegal immigrant bidness was
just a trap set by Bush to saddle the dems with a big election year embarrassment." Yep, it looks like the dems couldn't resist taking a swing at the tarbaby. They didn't want to do it, they could smell the trap. I imagine though, that once their illegal alien rights constituents started in on them, they were forced to come up with something.
And that something reeks. Imagine any dem presidential candidate trying to sell this albatross during the campaign.
As many republicans have said since Bush floated this idea "This ain't going nowhere." Only the dems are going to try and get something through, thanks to their Aztlan and La Raza backers.
Har har...
45 posted on
01/29/2004 2:37:54 PM PST by
telebob
To: Cyropaedia; All
I just had a talk with one of the most powerful Congs on the hill................this deal is dead....DOA fret not
no amnesty!!
To: Cyropaedia
Kerry, Dean, Bush, Edwards
What a miserable little group.
74 posted on
01/29/2004 5:08:58 PM PST by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Mexico-Merger - - Vote Tancredo in Primary.)
To: Conspiracy Guy; section9; Howlin; et al
Come behold the future.
82 posted on
01/29/2004 6:06:28 PM PST by
He Rides A White Horse
(I wonder if Free Republic will be deemed a terrorist organization under Hillary?)
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hoy..it's been a long day...I looked at the heading and started thinking extra terrastrials...ugh..need sleep.
83 posted on
01/29/2004 6:12:14 PM PST by
Blue Scourge
(A bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth - T. Jefferson)
To: Conspiracy Guy; section9; Howlin; et al
"The president wants to give [illegal aliens] a lot, but the Democrats want to give them the jackpot," said Steve Camarota....and nobody does it better than them.
Due to the President's ill-conceived amnesty plan, a can of worms has been opened. There was no need to propose it. Try to out-Democrat them now. See how far you get.
84 posted on
01/29/2004 6:15:19 PM PST by
He Rides A White Horse
(I wonder if Free Republic will be deemed a terrorist organization under Hillary?)
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