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Democrats offer plan on aliens
The Washington Times ^ | 1/29/04 | Amy Fagan

Posted on 01/29/2004 11:19:51 AM PST by Cyropaedia

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

House Democrats yesterday proposed granting legal residency and the eventual option of U.S. citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants now working in the United States. Laying out their own principles for revamping the nation's immigration laws in response to what House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called President Bush's "political ploy," Democrats went beyond Mr. Bush's plan for a temporary-worker program and called for a system of "earned legalization" for illegal aliens. At a Capitol Hill press conference, Democrats proposed allowing illegal immigrants who have worked in the United States for a yet-to-be-determined minimum period of time to stay here and be granted permanent legal residency, creating a "pathway" to eventual citizenship. "The president's proposal is a political ploy, and not the solid foundation on which we can build an improved immigration policy," said Mrs. Pelosi of California. "Democrats have a better way." Mrs. Pelosi said Mr. Bush's recently proposed plan doesn't create a meaningful way for illegal aliens to become U.S. residents or citizens; doesn't reduce the backlog of U.S. citizens' petitions on behalf of relatives who are here illegally; and doesn't help tens of thousands of teenage illegals attend college here and eventually be granted legal status. In addition to proposing measures to address those concerns, Democrats endorsed a temporary-worker program that would give foreigners the option to stay in the United States and eventually earn permanent legal status here. President Bush's plan, in contrast, would allow illegal aliens already here, as well as newcomers, to work in the United States legally for three years under a temporary-worker program. When their three-year permits expired, such immigrant workers would be required to return to their home countries. Once back in their home countries, they could apply for legal U.S. status through the existing system. Under the Bush plan, the three-year work permits could be extended in some cases, but not indefinitely. "The president wants to give [illegal aliens] a lot, but the Democrats want to give them the jackpot," said Steve Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies. Sen. John Cornyn, the Texas Republican sponsor of legislation that essentially mirrors Mr. Bush's proposal, said requiring workers to eventually return to their home country will reduce future illegal immigration by strengthening struggling foreign economies. "In my recent visit with government leaders in Mexico City, I was repeatedly told that they want their workers to come back, to return home with capital and skills," he said. "They need those small-business owners, those entrepreneurs to strengthen a weakened middle class." Mr. Cornyn's bill and Mr. Bush's proposal would provide incentives for immigrants to return home after their legal work period here expires. But Democrats like Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat, said it would be unfair and unworkable to deport immigrants who have worked in the United States for many years. He praised Mr. Bush for opening the door to immigration changes, but said the government won't be able to enforce Mr. Bush's plan. "There is not the political will ... to conduct that massive deportation," he said. Mr. Camarota agreed. "At least the Democrats are realistic," he said, adding that illegal immigrants in the United States, "aren't going home now and they're not going to go home with President Bush's proposal." Democrats propose allowing foreign-born minors who are here illegally to stay in the United States, attend college and eventually earn legal status. Democrats said that "at minimum" they support a bill, already approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, to allow states to grant in-state college tuition rates to illegal-alien students. That bill would also authorize federal officials to halt deportation of such students and allow the students to eventually become permanent U.S. residents. Mrs. Pelosi said if Mr. Bush were serious about improving the system, he would call for immediate action on the House counterpart to that Senate bill, as well as another House bill that would allow 500,000 illegal agricultural workers to become legal permanent residents. Democrats also propose enhanced family-reunification provisions. They seek reinstatement of a law that would allow illegal immigrants, sponsored by immediate family members who are U.S. citizens, to stay in the United States and apply for legal status, instead of being forced to return to their home countries before seeking legal admission. Mr. Bush tried to revive that law in the past, but it was "beaten down in the House," Mr. Camarota said, and the measure is not part of Mr. Bush's most recent proposal.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; doa; illegalimmigration
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The Dems have just raised the stakes. They want to allow all those immigrants to be able to bring their relatives in with them.

( Look out...)

1 posted on 01/29/2004 11:19:52 AM PST by Cyropaedia
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To: Cyropaedia
Pres. Bush's proposal will end up looking meek and mild compared to that of the looney left's proposal.
2 posted on 01/29/2004 11:22:27 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Cyropaedia
Democrats offer plan on aliens

The headline itself should be the news...they offer a plan!?!?! Astonishing... What happened to the tried and true method of bashing others people's plans?

3 posted on 01/29/2004 11:23:16 AM PST by smith288 (If terrorist hate George W. Bush, then he has my vote!)
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To: Cyropaedia
War in the US within 10 years. Civil or race, take your pick.
4 posted on 01/29/2004 11:24:19 AM PST by Stopislamnow (VIOLENCE!!!! A stone age solution to space age problems. It works!)
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To: JustPiper
Here is an aaaaacccckkkkkk bump.
5 posted on 01/29/2004 11:27:11 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Cyropaedia
You should be supporting the Bush plan. It's less damaging than the 'rat plan.
6 posted on 01/29/2004 11:28:47 AM PST by WayneM (Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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To: Cyropaedia
I was hoping this was the Democrats plan for space aliens
ala Hoagland. Frankly their plan or the Bush plan is pretty much tweedle dum or tweedle dee. Of course we wont get to mull over any other plan since both political parties are beholding to the monied entities who pull all the strings!
7 posted on 01/29/2004 11:29:13 AM PST by claptrap
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To: Stopislamnow
War in the US within 10 years. Civil or race, take your pick.

I was just at a local lunch stop, and the nice girl behind the counter that I've known for years was talking loudly to her husband in spanish.

So, you think I'm going to bring my gun into the place and blast them?

The world has changed since 1776. "Warfare" is now conducted via the media and voting. Which means that people spending their times buying and studying about old fashioned warfare are just involved in historical play acting.

The REAL way the future will be determined can be learned in college writing classes and video production classes.

8 posted on 01/29/2004 11:30:38 AM PST by narby (Who would Osama vote for???)
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To: WayneM
Don't think so Wayne. We need to cut out all the KRAP of any kind... ;)
9 posted on 01/29/2004 11:33:51 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
Democrats propose allowing foreign-born minors who are here illegally to stay in the United States, attend college and eventually earn legal status. Democrats said that "at minimum" they support a bill, already approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, to allow states to grant in-state college tuition rates to illegal-alien students.

Now would someone explain to me how they are going to afford college on the "low pay from jobs Americans don't want?" How about giving in-state tuition to out of state citizens?

That bill would also authorize federal officials to halt deportation of such students and allow the students to eventually become permanent U.S. residents.

And you would think the subsidized tuition (by the taxes of citizents, not illegals) would be enough, but nooooooooo, we have to throw in citizenship? Why not take the education back to Mexico or wherever, and improve their own countries? That sounds like a fair trade to me.

Mrs. Pelosi said if Mr. Bush were serious about improving the system, he would call for immediate action on the House counterpart to that Senate bill, as well as another House bill that would allow 500,000 illegal agricultural workers to become legal permanent residents.

And when those 500K discover that they don't like low paying agricultural work, and refuse to do it? Do we repeat the excercise for the next wave of migrant illegals?

Democrats also propose enhanced family-reunification provisions. They seek reinstatement of a law that would allow illegal immigrants, sponsored by immediate family members who are U.S. citizens, to stay in the United States and apply for legal status, instead of being forced to return to their home countries before seeking legal admission.

Reunification works both ways. If the trip across the border is so easy, maybe they should just drive over the border and visit those third cousins etc. instead of assuming that they can only come across the border to the US.

10 posted on 01/29/2004 11:45:52 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: seamole
Thanks for making it more readable!

Paragraph do make a difference.
12 posted on 01/29/2004 11:58:54 AM PST by FairOpinion
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13 posted on 01/29/2004 11:59:19 AM PST by FairOpinion
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14 posted on 01/29/2004 12:00:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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15 posted on 01/29/2004 12:01:10 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Cyropaedia
Bush gave the 'rats an opening to move to the right of him on immigration and they veered left as anticipated.
16 posted on 01/29/2004 12:02:39 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: SpinyNorman
"Now would someone explain to me how they are going to afford college on the "low pay from jobs Americans don't want?" How about giving in-state tuition to out of state citizens?"

Certainly. We are going to give them the tuition. It's already been proposed in California and other places.

17 posted on 01/29/2004 12:03:41 PM PST by AuntB (Do away with all entitlements (except the military!))
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To: Semper Paratus
That's how I see it, too.
18 posted on 01/29/2004 12:05:54 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: Cyropaedia
This is the biggest problem with Bush's inane initiative.

No matter how bad a bill the republicans come up with, the socialist liberals will take Bushes speech as a concession that they can demand more! They will not be satisfied until there are NO borders and the communist of the world have overwhelmed American culture and government norms.

The socialist liberals welcome the third world's invasion, they see it as the key to their destroying America and seizing power.
This is why they are so damn determined to deprive us of arms, they fear that at some point we might revolt against their giving away our country in pursuit of their intended coup.

Bush should be ashamed of himself for giving them this opening.
19 posted on 01/29/2004 12:06:47 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Cyropaedia
They could put Kucinich in charge! He has direct contact with the mother-ship!

Oh, not that kind of aliens - I only saw the headline...

20 posted on 01/29/2004 12:07:00 PM PST by RightthinkinAmerican (Try and tackle ME, Franken.)
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