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| 1-29-04
| Bob Moser
Posted on 01/29/2004 1:42:07 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; chicagolady; Gallegos; All
For many Latinos, Bush's plan has a fatal flaw
Sac Bee ^ | 1/30/04 | Laura Mecoy
Posted on 01/30/2004 11:05:37 AM CST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Among Latinos, the Achilles heel in President Bush's new immigration proposal is its requirement that temporary workers return to their home countries when their permits expire, according to a national poll released Thursday.
The first survey of Latino reactions to Bush's proposal to issue temporary worker permits found 42 percent in support and 20 percent opposed. The rest either had no opinion or were unaware of it.
Opposition to the plan more than doubled when respondents were told that most temporary workers would have to return to their home countries at the end of three or six years.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1068379/posts
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posted on
01/31/2004 2:30:58 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
Some Democrats Play One Upmanship with Bush
Administration on Illegal Alien Giveaway
American Workers in Every Sector of the Economy Will Watch Their Jobs Go to Foreign Workers, Says FAIR
(Washington, DC January 29, 2004) The immigration proposal touted by the Democrats yesterday is an outright assault on fundamental fairness, the rule of law, and on all working Americans, advocating a blanket amnesty for every illegal alien in the country, says the Federation for American Immigration Reform. FAIR accused some of the Democrats in Congress of playing one upmanship with the Bush immigration proposal and turning their backs on the 9 million unemployed Americans currently seeking jobs and legal immigrants whose admission will be delayed while millions of illegal aliens are granted amnesty.
Its amazing that the party which portrays itself as the friend of working Americans is in a foot race with the Bush Administration to give foreign workers unimpeded access to every job in every sector of our economy, commented Dan Stein, FAIRs Executive Director. Stein noted that the Democrats plan not only takes the cap off of the admission of foreign guestworkers, it allows them to remain in the U.S. permanently and bring in their distant relatives while offering a clear path to citizenship.
Stein pointed out that the Bush Administration plan and the Democrats alternative drives home the fact that both plans are completely out of touch with the demands of the American public, which has been demanding much less, not more immigration, for more than 3 decades.
Both plans are being championed as ways to deal with chronic illegal immigration and the national security problems that arise from having millions of people in the country who have never had criminal or terrorist background checks. Stein urged both parties to commit to enforcing current immigration laws and resist pressures from special interest groups and big business to open the country to limitless immigration. Instead, Stein urged Congress to pass the SAFER ACT, sponsored by Gresham Barrett (R-SC), which would:
Secure the border against illegal immigration and terrorism by beefing up the border patrol and cracking down on alien smuggling;
Enhance interior enforcement of our immigration laws;
Better screen aliens seeking admission to the U.S.
Expedite procedures for the removal of terrorists and criminal aliens from the U.S.;
Streamline the immigration process by suspending further renewal of temporary protected status and suspend approval of adjustment of status applications for certain immigrants;
End chain migration by eliminating the extended family visa categories;
The laws have been on the books for decades to stop illegal immigration in its tracks. What has been lacking is the leadership, determination and courage of our elected officials to place the security of the country and the economic viability of the American family, ahead of party politics and shameless pandering, said Stein.
http://www.fairus.org/media/media.cfm?id=2355&c=34
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posted on
01/31/2004 2:47:57 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
From Virginia Abernethy of Tenneseans for Tancredo:
As I interpret this memo on immigration policy:
1) The law requires Border Patrol agents to operate within the United States, not just at the border
2) A "long-standing policy" prevented the Border Patrol from operating in the interior of the United States
3) A memo about the "policy" was leaked
4) The policy has been rescinded, so Border Patrol agents may again do their job of apprehending illegal aliens within the interior of the United States.
V.
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Chief Patrol Agent William Veal of the Border Patrol garnered Nationwide Media attention last week when an internal memo dated August 8th was "leaked" to local media outlets. The memo stipulated that "long-standing agency policy" prevented Border Patrol agents from conducting " 'area control' operations in residential neighborhoods". Furthermore that the "operational priorities for the San Diego Sector are geared toward maximum containment at the border, to prevent illegal entry of aliens, terrorists, and terrorist weapons" and that "interior enforcement and worksite enforcement are now within the exclusive jurisdiction of the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement".
However, this policy is in conflict with section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act - Powers of immigration officers and employees, which has been reproduced below:
Sec. 287. [8 U.S.C. 1357]
(a) Any officer or employee of the Service authorized under regulations prescribed by the Attorney General shall have power {{{without warrant- }}}
(1) (((to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States;}}}
(2) to arrest any alien who in his presence or view is entering or attempting to enter the United States in violation of any law or regulation made in pursuance of law regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, or to arrest any alien in the United States, if he has reason to believe that the alien so arrested is in the United States in violation of any such law or regulation and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the alien arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay for examination before an officer of the Service having authority to examine aliens as to their right to enter or remain in the United States;
(3) {{{within a reasonable distance (defined as 100 air miles) from any external boundary of the United States, to board and search for aliens any vessel within the territorial waters of the United States and any railway car, aircraft, conveyance, or vehicle, and within a distance of twenty-five miles from any such external boundary to have access to private lands, but not dwellings for the purpose of patrolling the border to prevent the illegal entry of aliens into the United States;}}}
(4) to make arrests for felonies which have been committed and which are cognizable under any law of the United States regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, if he has reason to believe that the person so arrested is guilty of such felony and if there is likelihood of the person escaping before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the person arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay before the nearest available officer empowered to commit persons charged with offenses against the laws of the United States; and
(5) to make arrests-
Which is perhaps why in an interesting twist this "long-standing agency policy" was quickly rescinded by Robert Bonner, Commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection, just days after the August 8th memo made nationwide headlines. Bureau spokeswoman Gloria Chavez said that the rescinded policy was a legacy of the old Immigration and Naturalization Service, which no longer exists as its duties have been folded into the Department of Homeland Security.
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posted on
01/31/2004 2:51:38 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
To: JustPiper
Wow, very interesting story. I can see that some Freepers are quick to dismiss it as fiction. I don't know the author's agenda, but it seems plausible to me.
Comment #125 Removed by Moderator
To: JustPiper
Thanks for the ping. If I had the resources, and didn't have two kids in college, I'd devote myself full time to this fight. It really is that important for our country's security, sovereignty, way of life and future. Indeed, I think the case could be made that there is no issue more important at present than the immigration crisis, since it is useless to even try to strive for victory in the War on Terror if we refuse to get firm control over our borders and ports of entry and the entrants into our country.
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posted on
01/31/2004 11:20:12 AM PST
by
Map Kernow
("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
To: JustPiper
bttt
127
posted on
01/31/2004 10:31:20 PM PST
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: thecabal
Bump cabal!
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posted on
02/01/2004 6:03:43 PM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
To: Map Kernow
MK do whatever you can when you can, faxing is the least strenous. Email or call when your particularly upset, its catharic -g-
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posted on
02/01/2004 6:05:02 PM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
To: lainde
Faithful lainde ;)
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posted on
02/01/2004 6:05:31 PM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
To: All; gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Feb. 2, 2004 Insider Report from NewsMax.com
Is Soros Planning 'October Surprise' for Bush?
From NewsMax.com
By Jon Dougherty
International financier George Soros is worth $7 billion -- and he so desperately wants to oust George Bush from the White House, he says he would even give away his whole fortune to do so.
Soros did not make this comment glibly, telling the Washington Post it would be a real consideration if someone could guarantee Bushs defeat.
The billionaire's zeal to unseat Bush has caught the notice of top policy-makers in Washington who worry that Soros would not need to risk his whole fortune to cause mischief.
Here's the real worry: Could the master currency trader manipulate the financial markets to create a panic, collapsing the stock market or the U.S. dollar on the eve of the November election?
The thought of such a scenario dubbed a "Financial October Surprise" has some worried.
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posted on
02/02/2004 11:15:54 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
To: JustPiper; Sabertooth; MeekOneGOP
"Soros did not make this comment glibly, telling the Washington Post it would be a real consideration if someone could guarantee Bushs defeat." What is your opinion regarding the possibility of one man (Soros) forfeiting his entire billions to blackmail the the U.S. stock market on the eve of this November's presidential election.
Sound too far-fetched for reality?
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posted on
02/02/2004 11:25:24 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: Happy2BMe; JustPiper; Sabertooth
I hope that Soros the SO* goes broke and Dubya wins in a landslide !!
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posted on
02/02/2004 11:40:18 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
To: JustPiper
BUMP for illegal immigration control.
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posted on
02/02/2004 12:12:54 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(WANTED: A President Who Will Enforce Immigration Laws)
To: JustPiper
bttt
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:53:14 AM PST
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: lainde; gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Bump! Please acknowledge one border agent doing his job!
The hero!
WASHINGTON -- Working from "instinct," a border agent at Orlando International Airport 2 1/2 years ago refused entry to a young Saudi man who the U.S. government now suspects was planning to rendezvous with the ringleader of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Agent Jose E. Melendez-Perez, testifying Monday before an independent national commission investigating the al-Qaida attacks, said the Saudi man he interrogated on Aug. 4, 2001, gave him "a bone chilling cold effect." Melendez-Perez told supervisors that the Saudi man refused to answer questions under oath, did not have a return ticket or have plans for his stay.
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0104/27911commission.html
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posted on
02/03/2004 7:07:36 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
To: JustPiper; Pro-Bush; DustyMoment; Blake#1
This is meant to be an informative thread on the issue of keeping our country safe.
JustPiper, I smell a Rat!
________________________
Your American President.
Keeping you safe!
________________________
Your American Homeland Security Chief.
Keeping you safe!
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Your American Southern Boarder Patrol.
Keeping you safe!
________________________
Your American Boarder Patrol Car.
Keeping you safe!
________________________
Your American Immigration Courts.
Keeping you safe!
________________________
American's against Illegal Immigration!
Not feeling so safe!!
________________________
Comment #138 Removed by Moderator
To: Pro-Bush
Illegal Immigration is a big problem to the President and to citizens. IT IS NOT THE #1 PROBLEM!!!!! The #1 problem is jobs, jobs, and jobs. The jobs we have most Americans don't want.
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:41:52 PM PST
by
Blake#1
To: Blake#1; JustPiper
The jobs we have most Americans don't want.
In see where you are coming from, you must be an Illegal Alien.
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:50:21 PM PST
by
Pro-Bush
(Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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