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The conservatives are outraged -- about Bush (CPAC ArticleBarf Alert)
Salon ^ | 27 Jan 04 | Michelle Goldberg

Posted on 01/27/2004 11:13:46 AM PST by Warrior Nurse

The conservatives are outraged -- about Bush At the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, foot soldiers of the right rail against the big-government, free-spending ways of the White House By Michelle Goldberg

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: cpac; cpac2004; rickshaftan; shaftan
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To: tuckrdout
If he didn't actually lie, he twisted the truth, and played word games with us.

You've got to be kidding..... please, tell me you're kidding? You seriously aren't paying attention if you could seriously say that... or you are seriously not a conservative and are only out to cause Bush trouble for some reason.

Even Kay has stated that Bush told the truth about WMD's in Iraq as we knew it at that point. If you are eating "crow" in front of your friends it is because you haven't been paying attention to what's on the menu.

61 posted on 01/27/2004 2:48:06 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Warrior Nurse
"neo-McCarthyite Ann Coulter"

No bias in this article is there?

62 posted on 01/27/2004 2:50:14 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: dixiepatriot
Amen!

I'm surprised that the Bushbots here haven't posted Southack's "Litany of Wonderful Things President Bush has Done", which anyone could do about any President. It is a mindless exercise. If a President happened to be liberal, and using that laundry list format, he could be made to sound like a right winger, and vice versa.
Blind loyalty is dangerous.
63 posted on 01/27/2004 2:50:29 PM PST by VMI70 (...but two Wrights made an airplane)
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To: VMI70
Why are you surprised? We're not serial posters and you're not worth the time or effort.
64 posted on 01/27/2004 2:57:48 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: tuckrdout
Iraq did. Do a search on Con Coughlin articles on FR and the Douglas Feith memo.

You have no reason to feel ashamed. None at all. Syria has the WMD Iraq had.

65 posted on 01/27/2004 2:57:50 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: Southack
Since someone ignored the courtesy of pinging you when your name was used (post #63), here's a ping for you.

I know they think they are more special than the rest of us, but courtesy is courtesy....manners are manners.

66 posted on 01/27/2004 2:58:59 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: ravingnutter
Update me too pls.
67 posted on 01/27/2004 3:04:39 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: Howlin
Ahhh. But we are a noisy two percent ;-).
68 posted on 01/27/2004 3:06:05 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: sauropod
That is so true. Heck, you could be the whole deal by yourself! :-)
69 posted on 01/27/2004 3:08:20 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Well, as I often tell people (in all humility) "I am always right" ;-) ;-)
70 posted on 01/27/2004 3:14:04 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: tuckrdout
Dump tHe amnesty, secure the border, and cut not just reduce the growth of spending. In other words govern conservatively.
71 posted on 01/27/2004 3:14:22 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Warrior Nurse
If GW looses, I don't think you can blame it on those of us who can't force ourselves to vote for him again just to keep a socialist from winning. If all the "Bushlickers" had been on our side all last year, then GW would have repented by now and we could all vote for him in November.
72 posted on 01/27/2004 3:36:53 PM PST by al_possum39
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To: Howlin
no more than 9 percent of the Republican Party

I'd love to hear you explain how you would propose to increase the number of Republican voters in your particular age group.

If you are in your middle years, the short answer is that you can't. Very few converts will occur. New voters for either party have to come from younger voters either reaching voting age, or having previously reached voting age, becoming active.

Democrats have no message to convince younger voters to side with them. Republicans have the foreign policy advantage, but they are selling out to the Dems on domestic issues. A small tax cut with deficit spending with wide-open borders, and massive off-shoring of jobs, is not going to do the trick.

Younger voters (not me, I'm probably older than you) are getting the hint that neither party cares about their future or the future of the nation. Their numbers (of eligible voters) are increasing by over 16 million per election cycle, and will be the majority of voters before 2012 (less than two election cycles). Our numbers will only decrease from now until we are gone. They are not apathetic.

If a party wants their support, they had better pay attention to the younger voters. The majority of them are not liberals.

73 posted on 01/27/2004 3:41:21 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"and not at the prospect of a President Kerry or name-your-favorite Dem????????? *sigh*"

Yeah, these are the same guys who voted for that idiot Perot.
74 posted on 01/27/2004 3:41:33 PM PST by bulldogs
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
>>You advance nothing with your attitude except highlighting the ugly side of conservatism.

The "ugly side of conservatism"? LOL!

God forbid that there are still those of us left in the Republican party who put our principles before political expediency and party loyalty. I'd be a millionaire if I had a nickel for everytime a "conservative" on this free republic forum blasts the Democrats for their outrageous spending and the Clinton administration for his big government policies. But apparently it's okay to embrace big government policy and outrageous spending as long as a Republican does it, right? Please...

I'd much rather represent the "ugly side of conservatism" and stay true to my principles of less government than be a party loyalist who let's a politician get away with anything simply because they have an "R" behind their name.

dixiepatriot <-----an "ugly conservative" ;-)
75 posted on 01/27/2004 3:45:47 PM PST by dixiepatriot
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To: bulldogs
Yep.....they are the unappeasables. Perot had their number and played them like a fiddle. I suppose they are real proud of giving us Bill Clinton too.
76 posted on 01/27/2004 3:46:25 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: meadsjn
I'd love to hear you explain how you would propose to increase the number of Republican voters in your particular age group. If you are in your middle years, the short answer is that you can't.

A statement like that only proves how much you have to learn?

How do I explain how I would increase the number of Republican voters in MY age group?

Quite simply; off the top of my head, I can name you TEN Democrats who are switching to the GOP. And those are just the ones I can name right this second.

See, WE have life experiences and WE know what is at stake here.

WE don't want this country to be turned over to the Democrats and the UN; now, if you and your YOUNG friends think this is some kind of game and you're all holding your breath until you get everything you want, I'm kind glad I may not live to see YOU unappeasables take over the conservative movement.

You notice I didn't say "take power" because, no matter how many years pass, you right wingers will NEVER field a candidate that the entire country will elect.

77 posted on 01/27/2004 3:46:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: HalfIrish
Well .. I for one never said that about CFR. In fact, I was one of many who wanted the President to veto it.

But .. the President is who he is .. and he has a right to support and put forward those things he thinks are important. And while I don't necessarily agree with several of those things .. I would never consider not voting (or not volunteering my time to the RNC) .. and I would never consider voting for a democrat.

If that makes me an apologist .. so be it!
78 posted on 01/27/2004 3:49:44 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
exactly. Bush hasn't been conservative in a lot of ways, but he is doing a good job. Geez. Just the fact that the lefties are so pissed at him should show us that he's on the right track.

The prescription drug bill is an entitlement, but it starts the process of privatizing medicare. And it doesn't give away drugs for free. Look, I'm not crazy about it, but it's better than we would have gotten from a Democrat. (not directing this at you, just frustrated at the temper tantrums out there)
79 posted on 01/27/2004 3:50:21 PM PST by erasmus605 (My flame suit is on, and ready. Bring it on.)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Yep.....they are the unappeasables. Perot had their number and played them like a fiddle. I suppose they are real proud of giving us Bill Clinton too.

The GOP opened the door for Bill Clinton by nominating the incumbent who had broke his "No New Taxes" promise.

80 posted on 01/27/2004 3:51:43 PM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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