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Limbaugh's pill use not extraordinary, lawyer says
Miami Herald ^ | Jan. 26, 2004 | DANIEL de VISE

Posted on 01/26/2004 4:48:57 PM PST by AlwaysLurking

Limbaugh's pill use not extraordinary, lawyer says

BY DANIEL de VISE ddevise@herald.com

Rush Limbaugh's attorney mounted an offensive Monday, accusing Palm Beach County prosecutors of smear tactics and likening his client to any ordinary American with chronic pain.

''This nation is full of people who take medication every day and will do so for the rest of their lives,'' said Roy Black, speaking in a news conference in Miami.

Discussing the prescription-drug abuse allegations in unprecedented detail, Black reasoned that the quantity of medicine Limbaugh is accused of ingesting -- 1,800 pills in 210 days -- works out to roughly 8.5 pills a day, ``certainly not an outrageous amount.''

Black questioned the motives of Palm Beach County State Attorney Barry Krischer in releasing details last week of sensitive plea negotiations between Limbaugh and prosecutors.

The December correspondence, unflattering to Limbaugh, shows the radio talk-show host proposing to settle the case through treatment, potentially averting a permanent criminal record. Prosecutors counter: Plead guilty to a single felony charge of ''doctor shopping'' and avoid prison time. Both offers were rejected.

Black said the plea negotiations shouldn't have been released. He portrayed the incident as part of a politically motivated campaign to discredit his client.

Black said the government's plea offer came with a veiled threat: If Limbaugh did not plead guilty, the state would release his confidential medical records.

''The only conclusion that I can draw is that Mr. Limbaugh ... is being singled out more than anyone else for actions that no one else in this community would be subjected to,'' Black said.

Black and other prominent South Florida attorneys said they couldn't recall another case of plea negotiations released to the public.

''There has to be some thought about the long-term consequence'' of routinely releasing such documents, said Robert Jarvis, a law professor at Nova Southeastern University. ``And the long-term consequence in this case is that no one would begin a negotiation about a plea.''

But Michael Edmondson, spokesman for the Palm Beach County state attorney, said prosecutors were confident they'd done the right thing.

Prosecutors consulted the Attorney General's Office and the Florida Bar in response to the Jan. 15 public records request by the Landmark Legal Foundation, which sought all available documents in the case. They concluded the state public records law required releasing the plea dealings, even though doing so violates ethical rules for lawyers.

''The way the Florida public records law works is, anything that is not specifically exempted under the law is permitted,'' Edmondson said. State law trumps any ethical concerns, he said.

But he offered nothing in writing to back up that account. And Limbaugh's legal team produced documents Monday that seemed to contradict it.

Telephone notes from a Florida Bar attorney, paraphrasing Kirscher himself, state that plea negotiations ``are not normally to be revealed [and] so may or may not be [a] public record.''

Attorney General spokeswoman JoAnn Carrin wouldn't say what legal advice her agency gave the chief Palm Beach County prosecutor, citing the ongoing investigation.

Prosecutors began investigating possible prescription-drug abuses by Limbaugh, 53, last year, based on a report from his former maid. Limbaugh has not been charged with any crime.

Limbaugh's attorney accused Edmondson, the state attorney spokesman, of leaking a false story last month that Limbaugh was poised to plead guilty to doctor-shopping. Edmondson denied the assertion.

Doctor-shopping is duping multiple physicians into dispensing excessive prescription medications.

''I can say categorically now that Mr. Limbaugh would not plead guilty to doctor-shopping, and that's because Mr. Limbaugh did not engage in doctor-shopping of any kind,'' Black said.


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To: ClintonBeGone
Look at us now, apparently some (not necessarily you) who claim they are conservative are in favor of plea bargains...

No plea barigains would back up the courts for years, cost taxpayers tons of money and let criminals go (no more speedy trials)

Don't look now but your Clintonian--who cares what you destroy just so long as you get what you want mindset is showing again.

241 posted on 01/27/2004 9:02:45 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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To: js1138
Worst possible case, he exceeded the medically recommended dosage of a prescribed medication.

No - worst possible case, he violated those laws intended to regulate the procurement of controlled substances to obtain them illegally. It doesn't really matter whether he did it because his back hurt or because he wanted to get them off the street and flush them down the toilet. There is no legal problem if he just gets his scrip and decides to exceed the dose on the label.

242 posted on 01/27/2004 9:03:22 AM PST by lugsoul (And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Cubs Fan
No plea barigains would back up the courts for years, cost taxpayers tons of money and let criminals go (no more speedy trials)

I'm tired of flaming liberals who coddle criminals and want to spring them back on society by using plea bargains instead of letting them do the time for the crimes they've committed. I wouldn't expect anything less from an Illinois resident - home of a corrupt government that even gives a pass to death row inmates. By the way F. Lee Baily, it's normally the defendant that waives their right to a speedy trial. The prosecution tends to have their case already made at the time they arrest the defendant. I hope you're still watching the LA Law reruns.

243 posted on 01/27/2004 9:11:40 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: Cubs Fan
*BUZZ* Not if they are plea negotiations. And with good reason. They could (and in this case, have been) used to taint any prospectuve jury pool.

Hey Einstein, there will be no jury after a plea bargin!

244 posted on 01/27/2004 9:12:51 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: Cubs Fan
Haven't got time right now to find it for you, but you can look for holdonnow post to me last night which has the SA's account of talking with the AG...

What you are looking at is the Bar's account of what the SA said that the AG said - hearsay at best, but still only a part of the SA-AG conversation...
245 posted on 01/27/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: All
What did Rush just say he would tell us, as the program unfolds, about him because he loves us so much?? I turned on the radio and missed what he was talking about!
246 posted on 01/27/2004 9:14:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: an amused spectator
Prosecutors counter: Plead guilty to a single felony charge of "doctor shopping" and avoid prison time.

You got it. The felony conviction is the holey grail for the prosecutor here. That is the prize he'll try to ride into the governors office or AG or whatever office he seeks next.

247 posted on 01/27/2004 9:14:48 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: AlwaysLurking
"8.5 pills a day, "

Incredible! One pill every three hours! That's more often than I do Viagra. Well almost.

248 posted on 01/27/2004 9:15:52 AM PST by bayourod ( Dean's anti-terrorism plan: "treat people with respect and they will treat you with respect"12/1/03)
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To: RS
In lawyer ethics speak it meant the safest most ethical course of action was to ask the judge. period. To do otherwise risks an ethical violation.

When it comes to ethics, it all mandates the most conservative course of action. The attorneys who review such ethics situations make probable cause findings based on such opinions. He had a clear enough answer from the ethics hotline. This elected public official did not do that. An attorney on a review committee is not going to be so lenient.
249 posted on 01/27/2004 9:15:56 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: js1138
You bet it is. Without plea bargains, every case would go to trial. Take a good hard look at what that would mean.

More criminals would go behind bars for a longer time? And that is a BAD thing?

250 posted on 01/27/2004 9:16:09 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: longtermmemmory
An attorney on a review committee is not going to be so lenient.

Oh please! Those review committees are as liberal and stocked full of political people as the Florida supreme court. Its naive to think they'll be anything BUT against Rush's position in this matter.

251 posted on 01/27/2004 9:17:38 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: ClintonBeGone
You got it. The felony conviction is the holey grail for the prosecutor here.

If Limbaugh evades the bullet here, he'd be well-advised to stay away from blue crab traps & posted commerical horticulture property until after the 2004 election... ;-)

252 posted on 01/27/2004 9:17:46 AM PST by an amused spectator (articulating AAS' thoughts on FR since 1997)
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To: an amused spectator
stay away from blue crab traps

I'm more of a handline and scapnet kinda guy, but what's wrong with traps? And what do they have to do with Rush? Are there some draconian crab laws down in Fla?

Just curious in ice-bound(almost) NY Harbor. ( I'd love to be out crabbing right now ;-)

253 posted on 01/27/2004 9:23:19 AM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: StriperSniper
Florida law: molesting blue crab traps (felony, 3rd degree, Level 1) or trespassing on posted commercial horticulture property (felony, 3rd degree, Level 2).

Limbaugh is accused of a 3rd degree felony, Level 3.

254 posted on 01/27/2004 9:27:37 AM PST by an amused spectator (articulating AAS' thoughts on FR since 1997)
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To: an amused spectator
Ohhhhhh!!!!! Others crab traps!!!!!

That shouldn't be a felony, that should be volunteering to be bait. ;-)

255 posted on 01/27/2004 9:30:32 AM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Me prior--"BUZZ* Not if they are plea negotiations. And with good reason. They could (and in this case, have been) used to taint any prospective jury pool."

You--Hey Einstein, there will be no jury after a plea bargin!

OMG, are you really this stupid? If the plea is not agreed to, the case goes to trial (that is if they ever even bother to charge Rush with anything).

I can't believe I actually have to explain that to someone. Unbelieveable.

256 posted on 01/27/2004 9:33:54 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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To: an amused spectator
it is not just plead to a felony.

it is specifically plead guilty.

The prosecutor does not want a not contest, and withhold of adjudication.

The whole issue of proof goes out the window by soliciting a confession as this.
257 posted on 01/27/2004 9:34:04 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: RS
soliciting a confession in the form of a "guilty" is investigative. confessions are probative.
258 posted on 01/27/2004 9:37:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Cubs Fan
I can't believe I actually have to explain that to someone. Unbelieveable.

Believe it. You've shown us all, based on your comments, that they do sell computers to people even with diminished capacity.

259 posted on 01/27/2004 9:43:40 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_)
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To: AlwaysLurking
bump for Rush!
260 posted on 01/27/2004 9:43:59 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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