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To: XHogPilot
Was Clark going around them? Not really. As NATO commander, Clark told NEWSWEEK, "I wore two hats."

The issue is not an issue of "who" his bosses were, but rather an issue of being a straight shooter. Apparently, Clark didn't level with Shelton. One of the 4 c's critical to any military career is CANDOR. (Courage, Competence, Commitment being the other 3.) These are drummed into every soldier, and especially into leaders.

The way Clark was playing it, his lack of Candor with Shelton and Cohen left them hanging in the wind.

19 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:50 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
Was Clark going around them? Not really. As NATO commander, Clark told NEWSWEEK, "I wore two hats."

Clarkie Darling, thanks for the loaner.

/vomit off

45 posted on 01/25/2004 12:38:57 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Did you see me escaping? I was all like WOOB, WOOB, WOOB, WOOB, WOOB, WOOB!!!)
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To: xzins
The issue is not an issue of "who" his bosses were, but rather an issue of being a straight shooter. Apparently, Clark didn't level with Shelton.

I'll try to steer around by my highly negative opinions on NATOs "War on Yugoslavia", but when NATO initiated a war outside it's Charter, who should Clark have been working for? NATO, or his original commissioned office to the US Government. Unfortunately, he betrayed both.

67 posted on 01/25/2004 12:51:50 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: xzins
The issue is not an issue of "who" his bosses were, but rather an issue of being a straight shooter. Apparently, Clark didn't level with Shelton. One of the 4 c's critical to any military career is CANDOR. (Courage, Competence, Commitment being the other 3.) These are drummed into every soldier, and especially into leaders.

Well said, worth a bump to repeat

91 posted on 01/25/2004 1:32:11 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: xzins
" Apparently, Clark didn't level with Shelton."

That may be the incident that Shelton is using now but it's not the defining moment that led to a "relief for cause." There is a much more serious incident that I suspect that General Shelton will use only IF Clark gets the nomination. I have buddies in the association of Special Forces retirees in Tampa, FL. Tampa is also the HQ for the Special Ops Command (SOCOM) which General Shelton once commanded. According to my sources, Shelton has the goods on Clark with video, audio and official memos that will tie him to responsibilties for NEEDLESS American deaths of ground troops in that theatre of operations. I can't be more specific, lest I steal the good general's thunder. But that is more than enough reason to be "relieved for cause."

138 posted on 01/25/2004 7:10:11 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: xzins
It's a nice story, but I don't buy it. I think it's a smoke screen, like WMDs were for Klinkton to bomb Saddam during the Monica thing, which was a smoke screen to cover WMD technology transfers to the PRC.

No. I hear Four Star Weaselly was drummed out for being a chronic bed wetter, and I'll believe it til the day I die.
140 posted on 01/25/2004 8:16:54 PM PST by dgallo51
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