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JPS immigrant care: good move, bad attitude (FR Mentioned; Texas Health Care)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | January 24, 2004 | Bud Kennedy

Posted on 01/24/2004 10:01:39 AM PST by Timesink

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I don't know any of the backstory on this; I'm just posting it because of the FR mention.
1 posted on 01/24/2004 10:01:41 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Texas; Xenalyte
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2 posted on 01/24/2004 10:02:17 AM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: Timesink
to a chorus of immigrant-bashing responses.

Let's review. Undocumented aliens are here illegally. Illegal is illegal; meaning, it is against the law.

Now, to complain about the undocumented illegals is called 'immigrant-bashing'.

Next, we 'immigrant-bashers' will be labed un-PC. I am offended. Yep, oooofended.

It does amaze me how the illegality of undocumented aliens seems to be put aside in such 'news' reports as this one.
3 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Timesink
Working immigrant families are expected to pay a share of the doctor bills like everyone else.

This simple sentance, admittedly taken out of context, is more than a statement about the financing immigrant health care. It defines the nature, direction, and future of health care in the United States.

4 posted on 01/24/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by templar
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
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5 posted on 01/24/2004 10:35:18 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Timesink
to a chorus of immigrant-bashing responses.

Geee, I hardly noticed it! [sarc]

6 posted on 01/24/2004 10:39:50 AM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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JPS to expand immigrant care
7 posted on 01/24/2004 10:47:32 AM PST by primeval patriot
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To: TomGuy
Next, we 'immigrant-bashers' will be labed un-PC. I am offended. Yep, oooofended.

I am offended as well!

Let's start a class action lawsuit using only conservative, fee based lawyers at $50.00. We can be constitution-quoting, wild-eyed, hard-core, right-wing, gun-toting, opinion-spouting, mean-spirited, xenophobic, hate-mongering Joe-six-packs that are not educated enough to understand the bazillions of benefits of having illegals flood the health care system we payed for.

We can quote junk science and point to isolated instances that include no proven statistics and will retire rich.

I feeeel better!

TLI

8 posted on 01/24/2004 10:55:46 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Timesink
They pay rent or own homes,

Americans rent or own homes AND pay monthly insurance premiums. Renting or owning a home is not having private health insurance. Ship all the uninsured undocumented home. We can't afford their free health care.

9 posted on 01/24/2004 11:00:01 AM PST by FITZ
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This isn't a free ride. Working immigrant families are expected to pay a share of the doctor bills like everyone else. They pay rent or own homes, so they're already paying or helping to pay property taxes."

He lies.

The illegals are disproportionately poor and so *DONT* pay their own way. Many are in the "cash" economy and so *DONT* pay the same level of taxes the rest of us do.

On these mistaken notions crumbles the whole edifice of the lie that illegal immigration doesnt harm us.


10 posted on 01/24/2004 11:19:44 AM PST by WOSG (I don't want the GOP to become a circular firing squad and the Socialist Democrats a majority.)
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Here is the my response that I just sent to Mr. Kennedy:

Hi, I just read your column. I am 56 years old. Worked and paid into Social Security for 35 years, much of it after a car wreck, concussion, double fractured pelvis, knee dislocation, neck & back injury. 2 more back injuries since, and an autoimmune disease. There is NO health care for me. I have had no income for 4 years and because I have not worked in the last five, had to sell my home, etc. I no longer am eligible for SS disability or medicare. (check out eligibility at ssa.gov) When I have NOTHING left, I can get health care. You stated that illegals pay more clinic bills than white citizens. You may be right...I'd like to see your statistics, however. But yes, there are plenty of American citizens who have never worked or paid their own way, most of them on SSI and medicaid. Better look at the American citizens who are getting screwed, not just illegals. Example: You work 35 years....paid FICA....your parents are ill and you stop working to care for them for the next 5 years, while depleting your assets. At 50 you get hit by a truck and apply for SSdisability. It takes the SSA from 18 mos.to 5 years to approve your claim...SORRY, you are NOT eligibile any longer, because of not enough “recent work credits”.

Read some of the statements on this at Petition to reform Social Security Disability http://www.PetitionOnLine.com/SSDC/petition.html , if you don't believe me...it could be YOU!

And as for all those "jobs" that Americans won't take...I'd take ANYTHING...but employers will hire a strong illegal before they'll hire a disabled American...and PLEASE don't tell me about the American's with Disabilities ACT. Just another boondoggle. Sincerely,

11 posted on 01/24/2004 12:04:45 PM PST by AuntB (REFORM SS DISABILITY: http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)
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To: Timesink
"In Houston, undocumented immigrants pay their clinic bills more often than citizens do."

Oh please....

12 posted on 01/24/2004 5:57:31 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult.)
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JPS to expand immigrant care
13 posted on 01/24/2004 6:30:38 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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The JPS board "wishes to clarify" the decision to serve "undocumented residents," the ad read. It claimed that House Bill 2292 -- a comprehensive health care overhaul written by state Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth, R-Burleson -- "mandates" the care and requires local taxpayers to pick up any unpaid bills.

She is running for US Congress this year.

14 posted on 01/24/2004 6:33:37 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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This isn't a free ride. Working immigrant families are expected to pay a share of the doctor bills like everyone else. They pay rent or own homes, so they're already paying or helping to pay property taxes.

Horsefeathers.

I am not allowed to write a contract for an illigal (Criminal) if I do I could get mylicense taken away.

15 posted on 01/24/2004 6:36:42 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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Yet even as they open county clinics again to all families -- citizen or immigrant -- they are doing it for the wrong reason

Bud you are not even telling the truth.

Come on man, write the whole truth. Immigrants already had health care. The ST article was about criminals (Illegals).

But, what can I except from the star-telegram.

16 posted on 01/24/2004 6:40:42 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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County will fund nonemergency treatment of undocumented residents

FORT WORTH - Undocumented immigrants will get unprecedented access to the county's charitable health care system, which could cost Tarrant County taxpayers millions of dollars, JPS Health Network trustees decided Thursday.

17 posted on 01/24/2004 6:44:12 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: AuntB; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Good for you sending email B! Because if we all sent email to the papers that were writing articles, telling them we are writing in Tancredo as a protest, then I can only imagine that Bush would have to listen!

All of us who feel like B, need to follow her example!

Let us make this a fully intense camPAIN:

We see an article, we go to the website and email our post!
If it is a paper we've already emailed, we move onto another. The media, except for Colorado or Tenn. who already have had media attention about Tancredo, need to know how Americans feel!
18 posted on 01/25/2004 2:15:38 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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Quite an exchange insued with the author yesterday. He answered immediately. Said I had misplaced anger.
19 posted on 01/25/2004 3:33:15 PM PST by AuntB (REFORM SS DISABILITY: http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)
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To: Timesink
Of course those who are opposed to illegals receiving services will be labelled as "immigrant bashers".. and worse.. It's a way to make people back off .. guess what? Big deal. They think they can make American citizens back off by being called names and making them look like 'evil racists' but being called names and labelling is nothing compared to what is in store for the US.
20 posted on 01/25/2004 5:44:58 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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