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To: Luis Gonzalez
Don't insult my intelligence
You may want to believe in absolutes, go right ahead.
"Islam" has no agenda, extremist Islamic fundamentalists do, the first rule of war is to identify your enemy...thus far, you're failing miserably.

A few points Luis. First, how reliable is your intelligence if you forget it's been less than a hundred years since "absolute" genocide was pursued by a world power. Your first point is nothing but shaking incredulity.

Next, your "'Islam' has no agenda" carries all the weight of "there is no left-wing media conspiracy." True enough on it's face, but critics never claimed it was a conspiracy. They claim it's a "consensus."

If there is no consensus between moslems on what the Koran commands, evidenced by cooperation with non-moslems, then you have a point. If not, you're making a distinction without difference.

Finally, the enemy has been reliably identified. Your "failed miserably" is just a smoke-screen, because you are unwilling to admit the enemy's size.

And please don't insult my intelligence by inferring something other than what we did with Germany and Japan as a corrective.

65 posted on 01/24/2004 10:46:47 AM PST by papertyger ("Knowledge Is Good" - Emil Faber)
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To: papertyger
Even to the casual observer, the history of Islam is one of military conquest.
68 posted on 01/24/2004 11:06:49 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: papertyger
"Absolute genocide" was pursued by a LEADER OF A MOVEMENT in a European nation, your claim is that all Islam is inherently evil, ergo all Muslims are inherently evil. Your claim is fallacious in the fact that if fails to account for the hundreds of millions of Muslims in nations like Turkey, in Indonesia, in the U.S. and throughout the world who are not out causing any problems. Conversely, you are also ignoring the millions of Muslims in the U.S. and throughout the world who vehemently condemn Muslim extremism, and terrorism.

In order for your ridiculous assertion to work, you would have to convince me that all Germans pursued absolute genocide, a weak argument in light of the fact that they were busy killing Germans right along.

Radical, fundamentalist Islam has an agenda, and part of it is to pull blinders over the eyes of people such as yourself, it appears that they've done a good job on you.

Islam in and of itself, has no "agenda", and there is no more of a left wing media conspiracy any more than there is a vast right wing one, your tin foil is on too tight, there are media outlets whose editors and management has a left-wing point of view, and there are media outlets whose editors and management hold a right-wing point of view on issues.

In the case of Germany and Japan, we fought a conventional war against conventional governments, this is not the case here, and if it actually was, we would be fighting a billion people world-wide...we are not.

The enemy is easily identified, Muslim extremism, and the useful idiots on our side whose ignorance would escalate this into a war of religions.

73 posted on 01/24/2004 11:29:46 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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