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To: Beck_isright
Sorry, this is not going to wash with the Republican base no matter what the "party line" may be!

The GOP Had darned well better oppose the Presidents so-called "Guest Worker plan", State of the Union push or no because it is going to hurt the President, his re-election, the Republican Party and the country. I am sure the president is loosing millions of dollars and many votes over this. His poll numbers took a big hit regarding support this past week and it is no wonder why, this is an insane proposal and provides NO homeland security at all.

I received a call after he made his announcement from the RNC asking for money, we have supported the president, his father and Bob Dole's bid and worked for the RNC candidate for the last two elections here in New Hampshire. My response to their call for money: "Let the President get the money from the ILLEGAL immigrants". I then blasted them over this ridiculous policy along with the President (and the "Republican" Parties) unwillingness to genuinely fight for the President's judicial nominees. As long as they subscribe to "gentlemen’s filibusters" instead of the real thing, and illegals over American citizens, they will not get a dime from us. I am sure we are just a sample of the conservative base and others within the Republican Party who have had it. I am tired of having our voting block taken for granted.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for President Bush and pray for him daily, but I can not support policies that are going bankrupt America and to enslave our sons and daughters along with all future generations of Americans to support illegal immigrants, with free jobs, free health care, free college tuition and social security bennies after 18 months all so that he can make kissy points with Vincene Fox, and the Hispanic population here and in South America.

Our oldest son incurred a debt of $40k and our youngest will end up owing over $60k just to pay for his college education, and I do not know about you but we have to PAY for the healthcare we receive and if we do not have it, we have to get it. There are no free rides for Americans but for illegals...cue the music: "everything free in America... ok by me in America".

Our oldest son just graduated last year and is working as a computer programmer... his job is in jeopardy of being "outsourced" to a third world hell hole where people subsist on slave wages, but hey it is America and according to the president foreigners are being given the jobs that "Americans do not want to do".

The president may get 4 more years with such a ploy, but American CITIZENS/taxpayers and future generations of us will be paying for it the rest of our lives... FOREVER because once "entitlements" are established, they are NEVER rescinded, .... NEVER! I, and multitudes of other sane Republicans cannot and will not be a party to this.

Nothing he said tonight in the State of the Union Address in anyway changes my view of his overall "plan". It is bad for America, bad for our families, bad for our economy and bad for our national security.

Like I said, let the President and the RNC get the money for his reelection from Vincente Fox and the illegals, because they will not get it from us.

One more thing before I end, with American companies outsourcing high-tech jobs to India, China, etc... to asve a buck. What makes anyone in America believe, given the opportunity these same companies will turn around, lower the wages they are have been paying to hard working Americans by half and then offer those slave-wage jobs that "Americans are unwilling to take" to illegal aliens, opps my bad I meant to say "Guest Workers" who will be more than happy to slave, then take the money out of the country back to whatever third world hole they come from?

326 posted on 01/20/2004 9:57:49 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Tired of the Powell doctrine)

5 posted on 01/23/2004 4:42:20 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Tired of the Powell doctrine)
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To: Jmouse007
Keep posting logical stuff and nobody will reply to you. Knock the economics knowledge level down about six points to stay in the game.
7 posted on 01/23/2004 4:46:36 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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No problem. Here's a quick fix while they work out a better one.

Maintain the bottom line number of immigrants entering the US:
Decrease the number of legal immigrants by subtracting the estimated number of illegal immigrants annually. The bottom line is maintained. Both political parties can agree.

Amnesties can be handled in the same way at no increase in the size/cost of government:
If ten million illegal immigrants are given amnesty, decrease legal immigration across the board by ten million. Potential immigrants from France, Somolia, Paraguay, Holland, Zimbabwe, Lapland, Russia, etc will have to wait longer or miss out. The affected countries can argue it out with the offending countries with little or no US involvement. Both parties can agree. Lawyers may be big losers.

Border control:
Effective border control will seriously reduce illegal immigration and minimize the need for future amnesties. Any additional costs incurred may offset by implementing the above mentioned measures.

8 posted on 01/23/2004 4:47:04 PM PST by Consort
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To: Jmouse007
Katherine Harris' campaign called me Wednesday night. I replied that perhaps the illegals have more benefits than I do as an American and could perhaps share them with her campaign. The young man hung up on me.
20 posted on 01/23/2004 4:56:27 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Jmouse007
Sorry, this is not going to wash with the Republican base no matter what the "party line" may be!

You're right, but we can expect a lot of these applesauce stories to be coming out anyway.

What really bothers me is if Clinton had proposed the same deal, the very people defending it now like this writer would be screaming from the highest rooftops in opposition. And rightly so, it's a terrible idea.

33 posted on 01/23/2004 5:03:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Jmouse007
"Our oldest son just graduated last year and is working as a computer programmer... his job is in jeopardy of being "outsourced" to a third world hell hole where people subsist on slave wages, but hey it is America and according to the president foreigners are being given the jobs that "Americans do not want to do"."

You forgot the other con, "It is the duty and obligation of Americans to lift the boats of other nations". I have looked and I don't see that duty listed in the Constitution. I do see where we are to be protected from invaders of any type, peaceful or violent. They have played on the Christian American conscience and gullibility for decades much to their own harm. Now they have come for our standard of living, our blessings from God, our Constitutional Republic, and soon our Bill of Rights. It's time to send these scoundrels and snake oil salesmen packing.

35 posted on 01/23/2004 5:05:06 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Jmouse007
I spoke with one of my best friends about this proposal today. And she surprised me! She is absolutely livid. Why? Because she went through the entire process to become an American citizen (she was born in Canada), and did so legally.

This is a slap in the face of every American who has become a citizen legally- and a kick to the groin of evey American who pays taxes that support illegals through healthcare and welfare.

63 posted on 01/23/2004 5:28:55 PM PST by rintense
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To: Jmouse007
Bump!
Well Said!
64 posted on 01/23/2004 5:29:36 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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