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Fathoming Kerry. Veteran and analyst. (Plus Hypocrit!)
NRO ^ | January 23, 2004, 4:11 p.m. | WFB

Posted on 01/23/2004 3:21:11 PM PST by .cnI redruM

The voters in Massachusetts honor, and should, the heroism of John Kerry in Vietnam. The voters four years ago honored, correctly, the heroism of John McCain in Vietnam, though they went on to nominate another candidate. What some voters will want to dwell upon is not Kerry, acknowledged hero of Vietnam, but Kerry, analyst of the Vietnam chapter in U.S. history.

When he returned from Vietnam and formed his committee to oppose the war, he went further than to renounce a military and geostrategic operation. In his famous testimony to the congressional committee, he used the kind of language about the architects of that war that he uses now about President Bush. He told Congress, in 1971, that he felt the call to one more mission, which was to "destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war, to pacify our hearts, to conquer the hate and fear that have driven this country these last ten years and more, so that when, thirty years from now, our brothers go down the street without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys ask why, we will be able to say, 'Vietnam!' — the place where America finally turned and where soldiers like us helped it in the turning."

The voters are entitled to ask, "In what way did America 'turn'?" And to ask further, "If the U.S. role in Vietnam was barbaric, our motivations hate and fear, why, thirty-one years later, did John Kerry vote for war in Iraq?" There are American soldiers there who have lost a leg, an arm, a face. Howard Dean is absolutely plainspoken on the question of U.S. guilt. He declares that we had no justifiable reason to go to war in Iraq, and yet Kerry voted to authorize President Bush to go to war. What will he say to veterans of the Iraq war? What he said to veterans of the Vietnam war was, "We cannot consider ourselves America's 'best men' when we are ashamed of and hated for what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia."

President Bush, in his State of the Union Address, did not say that our concern for freedom was the single reason we went to Iraq, but he did say that the deposition of Saddam Hussein was a huge humanitarian blessing. Speaking of Vietnam, Lieutenant Kerry testified, "To attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia, or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom is . . . the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart."

The differences between Iraq and Vietnam are considerable, but what they have in common is insufficiently remarked. Our goal in Vietnam was to continue to press the doctrine of Containment — the George Kennan postwar strategy of forbidding further conquests to the enemy, to which end we had fought in Korea. We didn't hesitate to emphasize the difference to human beings between life under Communism, and life elsewhere. In Iraq, we entered the war to press for a strategic goal, the disarmament of Saddam Hussein lest he export his tyranny. And we have not hesitated to emphasize the difference to human beings between life under Saddam, and life elsewhere. What threatens in Iraq is an immobilization brought on by terrorist insurgents, and the possibility even of civil war if the insurgency is not contained.

Is Candidate Kerry declaring that the veteran of the Iraq war is the representative of U.S. dishonor and hypocrisy? When will he say that the Iraq war "turned" America, as he pronounced the Vietnam war to have turned America?

General Clark put his foot in it by drawing attention to his experience as a general, contrasted with John Kerry's as a mere lieutenant. But the two candidates are roughly the same age, both distinguished in their service in Vietnam. What the voters should insist on hearing is their respective views on our commitment in Iraq. Already, Candidate Kerry has voted in the direction of retreat, when he refused to approve the supplementary appropriations requested by Bush. If, when summer comes, the Iraqi engagement is still equivocal, will he treat it as he did Vietnam, as the embodiment of U.S. hate and fear and hypocrisy? Isn't the voter entitled to wonder about the reliability of a President Kerry who deemed past U.S. commitments transitory, en route to becoming dishonorable?

A problem with presidential candidacies is their pursuit of trendy popularity. Kerry tasted deep of this when he paraded before Congress in 1971, condemning the judgment and integrity of three U.S. presidents who had argued the importance of resisting the Communists in Vietnam. And now Kerry has his eyes on a sitting president who with the backing of 77 senators, including John Kerry, set out to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. Does anyone doubt that if the Iraqi insurgency had been quelled six months ago, Candidate Kerry would have applauded the leadership of the president he is so consumed to replace?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; ketchupboy; mrheinz; veteran; wfb
Kerry has been an unapettizing cross between a buffoon and a reptile with regards to the Iraq War. He has supported/opposed/supported/opposed the war about 800 times since he first started hemmorraging support to Howard Dean.

Kerry has the distinction of being the piece of garbage to have successfully floated to the top of The Democrats' harbor. He is far from a moral human being.

1 posted on 01/23/2004 3:21:12 PM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
I will never forget Kerry during the late 80's during one of the investigations of the Contra's (drug charges) standing next to a drug dealer accountant with his arm around him. He made his little foray into sandinistaville, looking for people to trash Reagan?Bush. He came up with a weazel drug moneylaunderer, and praised him as a great guy. He was caught with millions of dollars in cash in his trunk, as he was driving around S.Florida making deposits in banks. I was so furious I called C-Span during one of their leftie call-ins. Now Kerry is this supposed hero and protector of the American people. I guess, drug dealers, terrorists aren't really a danger in his mind. Only Repubs and ESPECIALLY GW.
2 posted on 01/23/2004 3:42:31 PM PST by marty60
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To: .cnI redruM
Kerry is a reckless politician. He voted for military action that he now says he didn't agree with and against funding the soldiers that he now says he supports and would never abandon. He justifies the latter by saying he didn't want to give the President a blank check. It seems to me that the blank check was his first vote. Once a number and a political price became known he withdrew his support.

I believe honorable men can disagree about the wisdom of going into Iraq. I don't believe honorable men would split their vote as Kerry did.
3 posted on 01/23/2004 3:45:40 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: .cnI redruM
JOHN FONDA KERRY
4 posted on 01/23/2004 4:14:22 PM PST by larryjohnson ( USAF(Ret))
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To: larryjohnson
Hanoi john
5 posted on 01/23/2004 6:03:42 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Hanoi john

Perfect! Can I use it?

6 posted on 01/23/2004 6:05:47 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: redlipstick
Be my guest. I thought it suited 'prune' face to a T.
7 posted on 01/23/2004 6:06:49 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
It really is perfect. Right to the point!
8 posted on 01/23/2004 6:19:15 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: .cnI redruM
"We cannot consider ourselves America's 'best men' when we are ashamed of and hated for what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia."

I have nothing to be ashamed of for my part in the VN war. If I am hated for my part in that little war, it is because of the vermin such as yourself that chose to participate in the treasonous activities that undermined the morale and steadfastness of the "best men" that I ever served with.

I understand that you threw your medals (well, somebody's medals) away, as a protest against the war.

Well, that was real admirable, hell, they're just pieces of metal and cloth, anyway, and hell, everbody knows that you yalies just wrote each other up for all kinds of them, anyway, so did they ever really mean anything to you?

I suspect not. I mean, mine really don't mean anything, either, except for my CIB, which I earned by standing beside my brothers, in the mud and the crud, day after day, night after night, facing the enemy and fighting the war, which is what I was getting paid for, by the way.

But I sure do appreciate you coming back home and standing up for me by throwing your medals (well, somebody's medals) away, just to show your solidarity.

I also understand that you got a Silver Star, again, just a piece of metal and cloth, but, Mr. Kerry, if you really did what I've been told you did, in order to get that piece of metal and cloth, how could you ever dishonor it, yourself, me and all the others, not to mention the ones that didn't come home, by pretending to throw it away?

You piece of stinking dog excrement, you didn't even really throw it away!

It hangs in your office, even today.

You are beneath my contempt and there are still those that know what being beneath the contempt of a crusty old Sergeant Major means.

I wouldn't piss on you if your hair was on fire.

9 posted on 01/23/2004 6:34:00 PM PST by OldSmaj
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To: .cnI redruM
WFB has said what has been on my mind so well. I think Kerry is a fraud and a follower. He has zero honor. What he did in Vietnam was nothing more than get his number punched in his pursuit of the Presidency. Kerry did not complete his tour, he availed himself of the thrice injured provisions (even though his injuries were scratches) and got a cush stateside job.

His first tour was on a big naval ship-- with zero potential of injury. Then he served four months on the swift boat.

Fine, he served and his record is clearly more impressive than Dubya's-- but that doesn't mean he should be President.


The phony name and the exagerated service and the 20 odd years of pushing a far left agenda don't impress me.

His politicization of national security and his betrayal of the troops by not funding them is grotesque. He is not fit to be dogcatcher in my book.

His use of Cleland and other misguided vets is also ridiculous.

I guarantee you that Jom Rassman was paid Heinz-Kerry money-- anybody seen his body language as Kerry speaks at campaign events? He looks like I did when I went to a Clark Meetup to subvert it.
10 posted on 01/24/2004 4:10:28 AM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not committing treason.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Kerry is going to be VERY hard-pressed to find it politically, let alone morally, feasible to make any kind of implication that veterans of the war in Iraq are anything less than courageous, thoroughly good people. If he makes any statements similar to the ones he made about American soldiers in Vietnam, he's screwed.
11 posted on 01/24/2004 12:49:37 PM PST by blitzgig
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To: .cnI redruM
bump...
12 posted on 01/26/2004 7:43:50 AM PST by harpu
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