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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Publik Skools teach kids otherwise, and most kids are publicly educated. Even their church leaders are starting to be pro-abortion. They're taught they can have sex if they want to, and get abortions if they have to; they're taught that condoms mean Safe Sex. You can't know better than what you've been taught or learned by hard experience. If you're told it's a blob of tissue and it's okay to remove it, it's your RIGHT by the SCOTUS, you're going to make the wrong choice in a panic situation.


It's sad that anyone has contempt for that. I've never had to wear a sign proclaiming my dreadful sins for all the world to see, and I've certainly never done it voluntarily. They are brave and wise. They learned the hard way and they learned it so well they're trying to atone for their sin. And still people throw stones!

By the way, though you won't believe it, I'm praying for your father, and not seeking you out to attack you on the forum for your opinions during a difficult time. Every one of these women learned the hard way and they are using their hard-won experience to try to prevent the murder of more babies. They're trying to tell young women that it's a baby, not a choice.
26 posted on 01/24/2004 7:37:56 AM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score
"Publik Skools teach kids otherwise, and most kids are publicly educated. Even their church leaders are starting to be pro-abortion. They're taught they can have sex if they want to, and get abortions if they have to; they're taught that condoms mean Safe Sex."

Yes, those things are true. That is why adults need to speak up and tell children that it is not OK to have un protected sex at too early an age, and that there are ramifications to their actions.

Adults should not make the excuse that women who have abortions do not know better.

It is up to everyone to speak out against abortion. You and I are society. If a society makes a stand, young confused girls here that as well as what the abortions mills and liberals have to say.

These women , who have had abortions do a service to society by speaking out. But for them it is too late. They have to live with their guilt. I don't feel sorry for them, but I commend what they are doing.

Good people make mistakes, but it is time for people who believe abortion is murder to stand up and make some noise.

IF these girls have no parents to guide them, knowing how society has to say is the way young confused girls will know it is not acceptable to have adult relationships before they are ready to handle the consequences.

Any woman with a fetus growing inside her knows that she is the giver of life , and that taking that life is selfish, no matter what anyone tells her.

I am just not willing to let young girls off the hook so easily. I was a young girl once, so were you.. having reverence for life and the instinct to protect your child is not something anyone anywhere gives us. It is an innate drive and is difficult to be ignored, unless you really really want to quiet it.

32 posted on 01/24/2004 8:11:44 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Triple Word Score; Diva Betsy Ross
Objectively, with far-fetched exceptions such as a mentally-retarded girl being impregnanted by rape, Betsy is right about girls not being ignorant IMHO. Would that more share her courage to speak with that kind of unwavering conviction. NOTHING justifies killing an innocent person, except that awful and heartwrenching decision to save one life rather than lose two.

Logically and legally the baby should only be killed if he/she could be convicted of a capital crime or if the victim is not human (and therefore not really a victim). I've never quite understood how a "right to privacy" magically confers to one the right to kill: if I take someone into the privacy of my bedroom, am I suddenly exempt from murder charges if I plunge a knife into their chest? And why does this only apply to women?

The only other way to justify abortion is as the Nazis justified the holocaust and American slaveowners justified slavery: rob the victim of its humanity. Evolution, with its implication (and outright dogma) of man as an animal, has made this second approach palatable.

In the case where a woman, caught up in the PP propaganda and the lack of judgement of one owned by fear (young, poor, pregnant, whatever), she can and should be accepted if heartily repentant. To do otherwise is to overlook our own moral shortcomings. Her burden, in this life and the next, is between her and God.

I'm suspicious of women who are regretful only because of phyisological consequences (i.e. "I'm sterile now").

37 posted on 01/24/2004 12:23:25 PM PST by Lexinom
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