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Objectively, with far-fetched exceptions such as a mentally-retarded girl being impregnanted by rape, Betsy is right about girls not being ignorant IMHO. Would that more share her courage to speak with that kind of unwavering conviction. NOTHING justifies killing an innocent person, except that awful and heartwrenching decision to save one life rather than lose two.

Logically and legally the baby should only be killed if he/she could be convicted of a capital crime or if the victim is not human (and therefore not really a victim). I've never quite understood how a "right to privacy" magically confers to one the right to kill: if I take someone into the privacy of my bedroom, am I suddenly exempt from murder charges if I plunge a knife into their chest? And why does this only apply to women?

The only other way to justify abortion is as the Nazis justified the holocaust and American slaveowners justified slavery: rob the victim of its humanity. Evolution, with its implication (and outright dogma) of man as an animal, has made this second approach palatable.

In the case where a woman, caught up in the PP propaganda and the lack of judgement of one owned by fear (young, poor, pregnant, whatever), she can and should be accepted if heartily repentant. To do otherwise is to overlook our own moral shortcomings. Her burden, in this life and the next, is between her and God.

I'm suspicious of women who are regretful only because of phyisological consequences (i.e. "I'm sterile now").

[Diva Betsy Ross]

My Grandmother was convinced by doctors that she had to abort her second child. It broke her heart. Her doctor's believed that she had Cancer, and her life would be sparred only if she aborted the baby. The family decided it was for the best, and she the baby was taken.

They found out later she did not have Cancer or any other medical urgency to take the baby.

It was a boy.

My Grandmother had a nervous breakdown, from which she did not recover for a long time.

She had a third child and suffered postpartum depression ,so great she was hospitalized for almost a year. She never was able to break the constant guilt and depression that resulted from the loss of her son.

My mother, her third child missed the bonding experience of her mother, and my Mother suffered from those repercussions her entire life.

OF course there are some cases where taking the child does save the mother's life... And in the case of rape, where the woman should be given a choice.

These cases are hard to grasp, but IMO, the reality is there are few cases where I could understand the loss of a baby.

Anything less to me is an excuse, and has far reaching consequences.

Teenagers who acidently get pregnant need to be told to see it through, or they will suffer their entire lives.