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VMI ruling challenged
Washington Times ^
| Friday, January 23, 2004
| By Greg Abbott
Posted on 01/22/2004 11:40:52 PM PST by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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A common refrain heard among the calls for ratification of the 26th Amendment, which lowered the voting age from 21 to 18, was that if people were old enough to fight and die for their country, they were old enough to vote. The same rationale that worked in 1971 could be dusted off today in the debate over prayer at colleges and universities, including many throughout Texas.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 4thcircuit; establishmentclause; scotus; vmi; voluntaryprayer
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To: JohnHuang2
Liberals believe every one is a child and we need the government to protect us from all the dangerous stuff out there, including impermissable grace before meals recited before sitting down to eat in a military academy.
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posted on
01/22/2004 11:51:19 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
Comment #3 Removed by Moderator
To: CatoRenasci; SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
Ping
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posted on
01/23/2004 5:45:24 AM PST
by
VMI70
(...but two Wrights made an airplane)
To: VMI70
Thanks for the ping, Brother Rat. I do hope this ruling is reversed. (On the other hand, the seriousness and sincerity of some of the prayers at SRC -- remember Great God, good food, let's eat! -- was suspect)
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posted on
01/23/2004 6:32:10 AM PST
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: CatoRenasci
You're welcome..
...opening meals with chaplain-led prayer...
I remember it as being cadet led. Has that changed?
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posted on
01/23/2004 7:14:02 AM PST
by
VMI70
(...but two Wrights made an airplane)
To: VMI70
They were certainly cadet led "back in the Old Corps [when we really had a Rat Line]" and I think they were cadet led up until the courts stopped the prayers. Can you imagine Chaplain Wilson in the mess hall intoning a prayer at SRC while 1200 hungry cadets stand, smelling the food and waiting to eat? No, neither can I.
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posted on
01/23/2004 7:23:07 AM PST
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: JohnHuang2
The Supreme Court must clear up the confusion, so college students can again be treated like adults. If they do that, then will they also overturn the 1984 Uniform Drinking Age law that punished states that failed to raise their minimum drinking age to 21 by withholding federal highway money? Doubtful.
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posted on
01/23/2004 8:50:22 AM PST
by
bassmaner
(Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
To: VMI70; CatoRenasci; SICSEMPERTYRANNUS; Travis McGee; onyx; bourbon; dixiechick2000
I just got back from Lexington myself today....500 miles each way.
I was there to witness an award given in my father's name...(class of 55). I also was asked to say a few words about my dad and on behalf of my family.
I have been going there since I was a little boy back in the early 60s to visit folks. As usual, everyone was so wonderful. I doubt there exists a school that is more deferential to it's alumni and their families....particularly considering I'm an Ole Miss grad.
Parade saturday morning was very very nice (the female cadet barking orders was a bit much but that's another thread...another lost cause). My 3 year old loved the artillery going off..lol
My eyes misted when the bagpipes band played Dixie and When Johnny Comes Marching Home.
What a great institution...dammit...it's a travesty so many utterly vile and weak minded folks have reveled in trying to destroy the place these past 10-20 years...a damned shame. I would be quite proud if one of my two manchildren decided to go and pick back up the legacy.
Regards.
(man, Lexington has sure gotten gentrified)
and one last thing....8 years of Reagan and 4 of Big Bush and 4 of Dubya and all we can muster are 2-3 Supreme Court Justices who even know what the hell a culture war is? that is tragic.....the left is winning thru inertia.
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:35:48 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
To: wardaddy
I was there to witness an award given in my father's name...(class of 55). I also was asked to say a few words about my dad and on behalf of my family.
That is absolutely wonderful, wardaddy.
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:41:11 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
To: wardaddy
Our present SCOTUS is indeed an indictment of the gutlessness of the RINOs.
Say, I just stumbled over these lyrics by a supposedly under rated UK metal band from the 1980s called "Saxon." I'd like to hear it sometime. Maybe it could become a cult classic among the troops in Iraq?
Crusader Lyrics
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Crusader, Crusader, please take me with you
The battle lies far to the East
Crusader, Crusader, don't leave me alone
I want to ride out on your Quest
I'm waiting, I'm waiting, to stand by your side
To fight with you over the sea
The're calling, they're calling, I have to be there
The Holy Land has to be free
Fight the good fight (*)
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
We're marching, we're marching to a land far from home
No-one can say who'll return
For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagan from out of the East
We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by Faith and the cause
The Saracen heathen will soon taste our steel
Our standards will rise 'cross the land
(Repeat *)
To battle, to battle, the Saracen hordes
We follow the warrior king
Onward, ride onward, into the fight
We carry the sign of the cross
Warlords of England, Knights of the Realm
Spilling their blood in the sand
Crusader, Crusader, the legend is born
The future will honour your deeds
(Repeat *)
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posted on
04/26/2004 10:50:12 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:02:42 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
To: onyx
Thank you dear.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:03:12 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
To: wardaddy; Eagle Eye
Great cover art! I'll bet it's awesome at full LP record size! It would make great leaflet material for some units in Iraq. Give them nightmares in Fallujah. Photoshop in an American flag.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:07:34 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Bedford Forrest
ping
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:08:55 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: wardaddy
That's wonderful! How proud you must be to be able to speak for your family on such an auspicious occasion. I know your daddy would be very proud of you.
I had no idea your dad was a grad of VMI. It IS a great institution, and it's been sad to watch these grand military universities be swallowed up in such PC drivel.
Hubby is a Va. Tech grad (A.E. '69). He ended up in the Navy. ;o)
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:21:39 PM PDT
by
dixiechick2000
(President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
To: Travis McGee
That doesn't look like Frazetta's work. Who is it?
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:44:01 PM PDT
by
Eagle Eye
(Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
To: Eagle Eye
Beats me. One of many Frazetta wannabees of the era, I'm guessing.
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posted on
04/26/2004 11:46:34 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: wardaddy
Are you sure the pipers were playing Dixie? The Regimental Band played it on parade (and always during the march down Letcher Avenue on New Market Day) when I was a cadet, but around 1975, I'm told, the black cadets objected and it was replaced by (of all things) The Bonnie Blue Flag. Last I heard from Col. Hammond, that was still the song used on parade and New Market Day.
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posted on
04/27/2004 5:43:48 AM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Arabia Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
To: CatoRenasci; dixiechick2000; onyx
I should have clarified.
As they were gearing up and approaching from down between the chapel and the barracks, they did a few minutes menage of both Dixie and Johnny.
I was suprised and loved it.
I had a little spat with a lady down in the bookstore as well I must confess. They had out 9 anti-Bush and anti-Conservative books on the front display and 2 Conservative(?) books...one by Hannity and one about The Passion. I asked her who picked out their books....she said she did....whoops...big gaff on my part.
Needless to say she was a bit icy, even though we spent way too much money on "VMI stuff" for everybody down there.
PC is a cancer that has infected everywhere I fear....and I mean everywhere.
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posted on
04/27/2004 6:46:06 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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