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Iran initiated 9/11 attacks’
Expatica.com ^ | January 22 2004 | unknown

Posted on 01/22/2004 8:01:22 AM PST by Dog

Iran initiated 9/11 attacks’

22 January 2004

HAMBURG – The Iranian intelligence service was the initiator of the 11 September 2001 suicide-jet attacks on New York and Washington, according to a defector quoted Thursday by German police at the Hamburg terrorist trial.

One Federal Crime Office interrogator said he had taken down a statement in Berlin on Monday from a former Iranian agent who insisted that Iran had employed Saudi radical Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network to carry out the attacks.

The defector could not appear himself in court because he had been promised anonymity, two police officers told the trial of accused plotter Abdel-Ghani Mzoudi, a Moroccan student who lived in Hamburg and was friends with three of the four suicide pilots.

The shock claim emerged on the day when a verdict had been scheduled. The prosecution asked for the delay to hear the new evidence. The end of the trial may be delayed for weeks.

The defector, who stated he had fled Iran in July 2001, two months before the attacks, claimed ultimate responsibility lay with a man named Saif al-Adel, who was an official in Iran of Hezbollah, a radial Shiiite organization with close links to Iranian intelligence.

According to the defector, "Department 43" of Iranian intelligence was created to plan and conduct terror attacks, and mounted joint operations with al-Qaeda. Osama bin Laden's son, Saad bin Laden, had made repeated consultative visits to Iran.

According to the unnamed agent, Mzoudi too had visited Iran for three months, though the agent said he had never seen him, and did not know at what point in time the visit took place.

The claim runs directly counter to the received wisdom about the attacks: that they were conducted by young Sunni Moslems loyal to Osama bin Laden, a radical Saudi with ideas rooted in his country's Wahabi brand of Islam. Iran's Islam is the opposed Shiite variety.

The 28-year-old police witness said the defector claimed to have first received information about Mzoudi by e-mail after his defection and from "other Iranian intelligence sources".

The defector alleged that following the 11 December release of Mzoudi from trial custody, the sources told him they believed Mzoudi had only been released so that he could be tailed by western investigators hoping he would lead them to other terrorists.

"That is why al-Qaeda is going to liquidate Mzoudi," the defector was said to have stated.

The defector also declared that immediately after fleeing Iran, he had approached CIA station officers at the U.S. embassy in Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic adjoining Iran, to warn them attacks were planned.

"He wrote a five-page letter stating that something would happen on 10 or 11 September without precisely delineating what it could be," said the police witness.

The man claimed he had been passing information to the CIA since 1992 and had been promised USD 1.2 million in payment, but had never received the promised money after his defection. He had therefore resolved to sell information to the Germans or French.

"He says he wants to negotiate terms for further cooperation with the federal prosecutor general's office," he said. That prosecutor, assisted by the Federal Crime Office, heads Germany's fight against terrorism.

A second police officer, aged 29, said he found the claims of the defector were "not unrealistic", given what Germany know of the structures of the Iranian intelligence service. But the court was unable to establish more about the credibility of the defector.

The policeman said he did not know why the defector had waited so long to come forward with such explosive information.

Presiding judge Klaus Ruehle pressed both police officers to offer their personal impressions of the man they interrogated.

"It is noticeable that you are both very cautious every time we ask for an assessment of this witness," the judge said to them.

Federal prosecutors suddenly announced Wednesday they had new evidence, more than a week after closing arguments by both sides. The court had been widely expected to pronounce Mzoudi acquitted on Thursday.

Federal prosecutor Walter Hemberger said Thursday that though he had applied for a 30-day extension of the trial, "I don't think we will need the full 30 days." He said a week or two would be enough to weigh the Iranian's credibility.

Mzoudi is accused of assisting in more than 3,000 murders and of being a member of Egyptian student Mohammed Atta's terrorist organization in Hamburg. The state contends Mzoudi must have known what his close friends were planning and was therefore a conspirator.

Prosecutors have demanded he go to jail for 15 years, like Mounir al-Motassadeq, another Moroccan, who was convicted in Hamburg in February last year. But judges freed Mzoudi on December 11 after earlier hearsay evidence relayed by the Federal Crime Office.

In that instance, a person thought to be self-confessed plotter Ramzi bin al-Shibh said Mzoudi had not been privy to the conspiracy.

German trial procedure allows such hearsay evidence, which would be prohibited under the Anglo-American legal tradition. Judges said the second-hand statement they attributed to bin al-Shibh created reasonable doubt about Mzoudi's guilt.

Hezbollah is a militant Shiite movement with Iranian and Lebanese branches.

After the 11 September attacks, US diplomats are alleged to have put out feelers to the Lebanese branch of Hezbollah, offering a truce with the anti-US group in exchange for all the Shiite group knew about the activities of rival Sunni terrorists.

Hezbollah's spiritual leadership claimed in late 2001 they had received such approaches, but denounced them as an attempt to drive a deeper wedge between the two main denominations of Islam.

The US government has accused Iran of harbouring al-Qaeda operatives, but has not alleged that Iran was behind the attacks.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911hijackers; alqaeda; alqaedagermany; binalshibh; hezbollah; hizbollah; iran; iranandaq; irgc; jihadineurope; mzoudi; sept11; southwestasia; terrortrials; zakeri
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To: Dog
If there is any rationale what-so-ever to this article, The president can always say "Hey, we missed the right country by a letter, the people of IRAQ are still better off with S.H. in custody awaiting his trial, so let's develop the correct plan for helping the youth of Iran triumph". What I would give to hear that sentence.
81 posted on 01/22/2004 4:40:48 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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To: Dog
Also interesting seen in the light of the Mansoor Ijaz reports on Fox News that OBL and hisson are in Iran, near the Afgan border.
82 posted on 01/22/2004 4:41:23 PM PST by bert (Have you offended a liberal today?)
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To: Dog
.....I don't.....

I get Dr Zin's daily Iran ping and feel certain that the plan is to cut the rottren fruit from the vine after it has decayed from within. I conclude that our forces have been surreptiously at work for a very long time in Iran and there could be very amazing results very quickly. The political power structure is failing as we type.
83 posted on 01/22/2004 4:46:44 PM PST by bert (Have you offended a liberal today?)
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To: A. Pole
...I think that those who want to make a coup or bring foreign rule are a minority...

I believe most Iranians want a referendum on the future regime in Iran. The majority of these people want a secular democracy but many are interested in a constitutional monarchy. The people would like a chance to choose the type of government they live under.

Regarding the 12% figure. Many people in Iran either work for the government or depend on public funds and therefore are more easily persuaded to vote. BTW, I think you will find that Iranians are more pro US than Iraqis.
84 posted on 01/22/2004 5:01:21 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: mr.pink
Turns out I rank 'paleo' after taking the test.

Are you going to publicly get even bitchier when we shanghai Syria and Pakistan?

85 posted on 01/22/2004 5:05:03 PM PST by txhurl (Stick around.)
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To: txflake
Are you going to publicly get even bitchier when we shanghai Syria and Pakistan?

I'll play it by whatever rules the person I am debating sets. So however you care to play arguementively, you can count me in.

You basically called the American people stupid....I did not. You considered that stupidity an easily exploitable means by which to expand a war. I believe conservatives should not be in business of snookering our brothers and sisters into one via a con.
86 posted on 01/22/2004 5:42:05 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: mr.pink
Was it ?Coolidge? that said: 'The business of America is Business'.

I appreciate your moral stringency. Wish the world would apply it. But they won't, so we can't. We do a pretty good job of trying, though.

Purism is important. But it doesn't - can't - compete with business.

I apologize for my remark.

87 posted on 01/22/2004 5:54:50 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake
No problem....I apologize as well as I believe I initially misread you and may have carried a bit of fiestiness over from another arguement.

I agree with fully the "business" quote...and I hope America can get back to doing business with the countries in the ME ASAP.
88 posted on 01/22/2004 6:18:02 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: mr.pink
Well..! Pleased to know you, Sir.
89 posted on 01/22/2004 7:04:42 PM PST by txhurl
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To: A. Pole
I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. You said:

All this for forcing separation of church/mosque and state?

But the reason I gave for any military intervention in Iran at post 71 was as follows:

Indeed, we are at war and Iran is harboring our enemies. Because of that fact, intervention is clearly on the table.

Moreover, you focus on the cost of such a conflict:

You need more than $500B and 500K troops for a long time.

OTOH, I focus on the much greater risk of doing nothing:

Moreover, the time to act is not after bodies are stacked up like cordwood. It was a miracle we only lost 3,000 on 9/11/01. If terrorists get their hands on any substantive weapon and delivery mechanism (biological, chemical or nuclear) – which usually only nation/states can afford – then the risk escalates. A mid-range attack on a population center could bring in civilian casualties in 6 or 7 digits which would paralyze the U.S. and world economy for years.

As I mentioned before, it is my strong belief that words of diplomacy in situations like this mean nothing unless backed up with credible threat of force. What we have already done in Iraq should be sufficient to establish credibility.

However, it is my hope that because of the credible threat, the government will reform and comply with our reasonable demands and concede power to the people on its own.

We are not on the same foreign policy page at all and thus I can see nothing to be gained in discussing this any further but I do thank you for the conversation and for sharing your views.

90 posted on 01/22/2004 9:08:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: txflake
Same here. I look forward to both agreeing, and arguing, with you on future issues.
91 posted on 01/23/2004 5:56:19 AM PST by mr.pink
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