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Iran initiated 9/11 attacks’
Expatica.com ^ | January 22 2004 | unknown

Posted on 01/22/2004 8:01:22 AM PST by Dog

Iran initiated 9/11 attacks’

22 January 2004

HAMBURG – The Iranian intelligence service was the initiator of the 11 September 2001 suicide-jet attacks on New York and Washington, according to a defector quoted Thursday by German police at the Hamburg terrorist trial.

One Federal Crime Office interrogator said he had taken down a statement in Berlin on Monday from a former Iranian agent who insisted that Iran had employed Saudi radical Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network to carry out the attacks.

The defector could not appear himself in court because he had been promised anonymity, two police officers told the trial of accused plotter Abdel-Ghani Mzoudi, a Moroccan student who lived in Hamburg and was friends with three of the four suicide pilots.

The shock claim emerged on the day when a verdict had been scheduled. The prosecution asked for the delay to hear the new evidence. The end of the trial may be delayed for weeks.

The defector, who stated he had fled Iran in July 2001, two months before the attacks, claimed ultimate responsibility lay with a man named Saif al-Adel, who was an official in Iran of Hezbollah, a radial Shiiite organization with close links to Iranian intelligence.

According to the defector, "Department 43" of Iranian intelligence was created to plan and conduct terror attacks, and mounted joint operations with al-Qaeda. Osama bin Laden's son, Saad bin Laden, had made repeated consultative visits to Iran.

According to the unnamed agent, Mzoudi too had visited Iran for three months, though the agent said he had never seen him, and did not know at what point in time the visit took place.

The claim runs directly counter to the received wisdom about the attacks: that they were conducted by young Sunni Moslems loyal to Osama bin Laden, a radical Saudi with ideas rooted in his country's Wahabi brand of Islam. Iran's Islam is the opposed Shiite variety.

The 28-year-old police witness said the defector claimed to have first received information about Mzoudi by e-mail after his defection and from "other Iranian intelligence sources".

The defector alleged that following the 11 December release of Mzoudi from trial custody, the sources told him they believed Mzoudi had only been released so that he could be tailed by western investigators hoping he would lead them to other terrorists.

"That is why al-Qaeda is going to liquidate Mzoudi," the defector was said to have stated.

The defector also declared that immediately after fleeing Iran, he had approached CIA station officers at the U.S. embassy in Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic adjoining Iran, to warn them attacks were planned.

"He wrote a five-page letter stating that something would happen on 10 or 11 September without precisely delineating what it could be," said the police witness.

The man claimed he had been passing information to the CIA since 1992 and had been promised USD 1.2 million in payment, but had never received the promised money after his defection. He had therefore resolved to sell information to the Germans or French.

"He says he wants to negotiate terms for further cooperation with the federal prosecutor general's office," he said. That prosecutor, assisted by the Federal Crime Office, heads Germany's fight against terrorism.

A second police officer, aged 29, said he found the claims of the defector were "not unrealistic", given what Germany know of the structures of the Iranian intelligence service. But the court was unable to establish more about the credibility of the defector.

The policeman said he did not know why the defector had waited so long to come forward with such explosive information.

Presiding judge Klaus Ruehle pressed both police officers to offer their personal impressions of the man they interrogated.

"It is noticeable that you are both very cautious every time we ask for an assessment of this witness," the judge said to them.

Federal prosecutors suddenly announced Wednesday they had new evidence, more than a week after closing arguments by both sides. The court had been widely expected to pronounce Mzoudi acquitted on Thursday.

Federal prosecutor Walter Hemberger said Thursday that though he had applied for a 30-day extension of the trial, "I don't think we will need the full 30 days." He said a week or two would be enough to weigh the Iranian's credibility.

Mzoudi is accused of assisting in more than 3,000 murders and of being a member of Egyptian student Mohammed Atta's terrorist organization in Hamburg. The state contends Mzoudi must have known what his close friends were planning and was therefore a conspirator.

Prosecutors have demanded he go to jail for 15 years, like Mounir al-Motassadeq, another Moroccan, who was convicted in Hamburg in February last year. But judges freed Mzoudi on December 11 after earlier hearsay evidence relayed by the Federal Crime Office.

In that instance, a person thought to be self-confessed plotter Ramzi bin al-Shibh said Mzoudi had not been privy to the conspiracy.

German trial procedure allows such hearsay evidence, which would be prohibited under the Anglo-American legal tradition. Judges said the second-hand statement they attributed to bin al-Shibh created reasonable doubt about Mzoudi's guilt.

Hezbollah is a militant Shiite movement with Iranian and Lebanese branches.

After the 11 September attacks, US diplomats are alleged to have put out feelers to the Lebanese branch of Hezbollah, offering a truce with the anti-US group in exchange for all the Shiite group knew about the activities of rival Sunni terrorists.

Hezbollah's spiritual leadership claimed in late 2001 they had received such approaches, but denounced them as an attempt to drive a deeper wedge between the two main denominations of Islam.

The US government has accused Iran of harbouring al-Qaeda operatives, but has not alleged that Iran was behind the attacks.


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This is very interesting if it turns out to be true.
1 posted on 01/22/2004 8:01:22 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; hchutch; Angelus Errare; Coop; Travis McGee; BOBTHENAILER; ...
Fyi...
2 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:52 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: Dog
The problem is, all these guys lie, all the time.
3 posted on 01/22/2004 8:05:07 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Dog
I've long thought a tripod of US presence would be preferable. So far we've got Afghanistan & Iraq. Where does that third shoe drop?
4 posted on 01/22/2004 8:06:23 AM PST by P.O.E. (So sigh not so, but let them go and be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
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To: sinkspur
true....never ever trust or believe them.....
5 posted on 01/22/2004 8:07:24 AM PST by rrrod
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To: P.O.E.
Iran would be a world war. We haven't touch Iran for a real reason. They have some muscle and would be able to set the UAE and adjoining states on fire. It would be a struggle.
6 posted on 01/22/2004 8:10:06 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: P.O.E.
I agree....but do you see anything happening before the election. I don't. I think we consolidate in Iraq....retool our forces then launch Phase III in January of next year.
7 posted on 01/22/2004 8:10:30 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: Dog; Dog Gone
Someone on CNBC just said there is a rumor going around wall street that Osama Bin Laden has been captured, Washington is denying it.

However John Snow is making an announcement on a joint effort with Saudi Arabia for the first time to go after financiers of terrorism via charitable organizations!

8 posted on 01/22/2004 8:13:14 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog
I don't think this year, either. Spadework may be underway, but we'd have heard more trial-ballooning by now. Plus, in Iran, there's the internal situation which I think is being allowed to unfold further.
9 posted on 01/22/2004 8:16:30 AM PST by P.O.E. (So sigh not so, but let them go and be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
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To: P.O.E.
Syria.

We owe the House of Assad some bigtime payback.

L

10 posted on 01/22/2004 8:20:34 AM PST by Lurker (Don't p*** down my back and try to tell me it's raining.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ernest don't do that to me.
11 posted on 01/22/2004 8:20:41 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: Dog
Nice tag line, and a worthy quote, too.
12 posted on 01/22/2004 8:23:21 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: sinkspur
The problem is, all these guys lie, all the time.

Yup...just look at the mischief makers (both foreign and domestic) who lied us into Iraq.

Thankfully Bush won't fall for that same ploy twice (as he proved when he balked at expanding the war theater to Syria), but it's a bit troubling that he hasn't yet taken a broom to the troublmakers at the "Office of Special Plans" at DOD.
13 posted on 01/22/2004 8:24:38 AM PST by mr.pink
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it's a bit troubling that he hasn't yet taken a broom to the troublmakers at the "Office of Special Plans" at DOD.

Yeah. Without them, Saddam Hussein would still be stuffing his people into industrial shredders.

15 posted on 01/22/2004 8:27:32 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Dog
Transparently obvious attempt by an Iranian who hates the current regime to try and motivate the United States to take the mullahs out.

This barely qualifies as chat, much less news.
16 posted on 01/22/2004 8:28:34 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: ThatsAllFolks2
During his SOTU Bush hinted at Iran, N. Korea and Syria, but did not mention China or Saudi Arabia. Especially china we don't want to touch.
17 posted on 01/22/2004 8:29:37 AM PST by PersonalLiberties (Between Life and the Pursuit of Happiness you Need Liberty www.personalliberties.com)
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To: Lurker
Syria

You wouldn't get any tears from me on that move. Although with them perhaps behind Hezbollah's most recent incursion into Israel, that might also turn into quite a tripwire.

18 posted on 01/22/2004 8:31:10 AM PST by P.O.E. (So sigh not so, but let them go and be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
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To: Dog
This does not sound at all true to me. This sounds like big talk from a huckster who is trying to get rich. But look for the Michael Moores of this world to jump all over this claim:

The defector also declared that immediately after fleeing Iran, he had approached CIA station officers at the U.S. embassy in Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic adjoining Iran, to warn them attacks were planned.

"He wrote a five-page letter stating that something would happen on 10 or 11 September without precisely delineating what it could be," said the police witness.


19 posted on 01/22/2004 8:34:30 AM PST by Dog Gone
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