So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

[Doctor Stochastic]

Feel free to use (and modify it). It would be the second of my comments to get to be a tag line. (Brag, brag.)

[zook]

"I'll get in line for my turn at you trying to kick my a$$. "

Instead, why don't you get in line for your turn to learn how to read?

[ClancyJ]

Great post - thanks.

Of course he is conservative - compassionate conservative. When they find an ultra right wing conservative they can get elected, great.

Of course, they don't have it now and will not because they throw their votes to democrats - the true conservative move in their minds.

But, I'm tired of talking to them. Let them throw their votes over to the democrats in a 50/50 nation. Very smart move for conservatism - yes - a great move for this country. Conservatism will surely come forth with socialists in power.

[exmarine]

Again, I invite you to write the moderator of this website and see what they have to say about your "thought police" idea. I would love to see their response.

[Your Nightmare]

You think a dem senate would up military spending and cut domestic programs?

In the current situation, yes. If a Rep Prez asked for it. The Dem congress did for Reagan and we weren't in a "hot" war.

They cut military and up domestic. Both parties are feeding at the pig trough.PORKIES

They can't up domestic if the Prez doesn't sign the bills. Of course, the Prez would have to find that veto stamp...where did that thing go? Domestic spending was much slower under Clinton with a Rep congress than the current situation. Actually, Carter didn't spend this much with a Dem congress.

http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-31-03.html

[BJClinton]

Dean is fiscally conservative

No, he had well-funded mandates due to a boom economy. He did not cut spending, he jacked it up. He, like Bush now, would not cut spending to compensate for the economic downturn. A real fiscal conservative would cut spending instead of spending money like a...well...like a nanny-state liberal.

being frugal isn't the same thing as being conservative.

Completely agree, well-funded mandate and all.

All the other stuff(Kyoto et al) is fine and proves Bush is not an idiot.

Finally, as far as abortion: I would rather vote for a pro-choice true fiscal conservative that will cut spending and big government programs than a anti-abortion big-spender.

Okay, finally for real, I'm not sure how I feel about the whole immigration plan. I have to wait and see how that plays out.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I'm the one who originally said that.

Surely you wouldn't deny the statement that preceded it - that we will either have a Democrat in the White House next January, or we will have President Bush.

That is the choice.

You have apparently made yours.

I just hope the rest of us don't have to live with a Democrat president just because of the thumb-sucking bed-wetters who can't find anything about President Bush (tax cuts, PBA ban, IICC, etc.) to appreciate.

To hell with the Democrats, and to hell with their "real conservative" accomplices.

[ohioWfan]

And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm. (This is just a beginning.)

Amen!

[Sabertooth]

Take for an example, the quote you posted, somehow that direct quote from the POTUS has become something totally different in the minds of some here. To argue over it is as useless as asking a blind man if he likes the new high definition Plasma TV's

It's useless, because it was the wrong quote.

See #750.

m1-lightning rebutted a quote at #675 that I didhn't use at #428.

[MEG33]

I didn't concede a vote for Bush would not..you are plainly against Bush,so I concede you don't think so.My statements are only my opinion.It is based on reality of third party voting history and history of the democratic voting .Consevative dems in the Congress and the Senate are a disappearing group.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

That's your own? I am impressed. (I thought you were quoting someone.)

[ClancyJ]

....He has lost my vote, it's up to him to earn it back. So far he is failing miserably.
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So, enjoy the democrats - your party. Bush will not be calling to find out what you want him to do - but you might stay by the phone just in case.

I imagine Bush will do what he thinks best.

[Bikers4Bush]

I'm not sure if that was a slam or not.

[My2Cents]

I'm curious about your screen name. You clearly aren't "4Bush." Does that mean you're not a biker either?

[m1-lightning]

So, under the Bush Amnesty, "temporary workers," millions of whom would be legalized-Illegals, "will be allowed to apply in the normal way" for U.S. citizenship.

I see nothing wrong with temporary workers applying for a green card in the same manner that every non-"temporary worker" foreigner does. I would detest if Bush were simply granting them green cards for working here.

[Owen]

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Extremists will NEVER get to vote FOR anyone. That is the nature of the universe.

Completely wrong.

It was the gun-rights 'extremists' who elected the Republican House in '94. And they were far more effective in implementing a conservative agenda than anything Bush has done.

It was largely those same 'extremists' who defeated Gore in Arkansas and Tennessee in 2000.
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I know of no statistical evidence to support either of these presumptions.

Indeed, mathematics preclude those presumptions being true. By definition, extremists are a group small in number. You are therefore incorrect.

[woodyinscc]

I like my first amendment rights

Albeit President Bush signed the CFR Bill, but it was the SCOTUS that gave it legitimacy. We will never get righteous Judges from the libs.

like my privacy

Has the Patriot Act impacted your life, or is it the myriad of needless and nonsensencicle laws passed down by State and local Gov.?

I like the enforcement of immigration laws.

President Bush's proposals are just that. This issue has been kicked down the road far too long. I will be on your side in asking for the right solution.

I like my private schools private.

So does President Bush.

I like the government to abstain from getting involved in having children piss in bottles.

If we get back to strong family's and charitable communities with no Gov. intervention, there should be no need of this.(I know I am being idealistic)

[zook]

"I think Hitler said something similar. I think you need to read the 1st amendment."

See, if you jab 'em enough, they'll go nutzo.

The First Amendment has nothing to do with whether or not the owner of a private opinion forum must allow you to post tripe.

Are you related to Howard Dean, by the way?

[Nanodik]

You're under the impression this is a game?

And you're under the impression any of this matters?

[deport]

I am deeply saddened that none of you bothered to ping me to this thread.

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