So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

[Protagoras]

But you carry right along, pushing this country to hell, lead by the Democrats.

You can go to hell before them. You said it, it's right in front of your face, and now you say it isn't being read correctly. Get over yourself.

[Mr. Mojo]

the title is President of the United States, not president of any particular political party or ideology. Any president will call each issue like he sees it. It is a sign of character and courage in a president if he calls an issue in a way he knows is unpopular.

So if a future President (of either party) supports the unpopular stances of totally open borders (without borders patrols), gun confiscation, and a weak military (to name just a few issues) you'd consider that a sign of "courage and character?" After call, that future President would merely be "calling each issue as he see it."

No, I'll tell you what's courageous and indicitive of high moral character: Respecting the Bill of Rights and preserving our borders, language, and culture.

[Mo1]

It was asked and answered, more than once. Go back and read

Well then .. I must have missed it .. could you repeat the name again?

[RiflemanSharpe]

HEAR,HEAR!!!

[carton253]

Wow! Is that what have you so upset? Because the airlines want to check you out. I have nothing to hide. Let them check away.

Again, with the money order...

And it has everything to do with the war terror.

Yes, I know all about the Jews in Germany. But, I don't think we are any where close to Nazi Germany, nor do I think we are headed in that direction.

How far must it go until YOU feel threathened ??

When I FEEL THREATENED, I will let you know.

[Mo1]

I'm not paranoid .. just annoyed that you think the rest of us should commit suicide by putting a Dem in the WH

[Protagoras]

There won't be a 'next time around' for any of us if the dems win this election.

LOL, the sky is falling. There will be no more country if Bush isn't re-elected. No more Republican Party, no more anything, fresh out of chances.

LOL, you people get more shrill by the minute.

[deport]

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I can't say I saw it but here is one place that posters have said others were offered but declined..... I've seen other post to the same effect.

Did it happen I don't know..... Did the Posters Lie, I don't know.....

Do you have evidence they would accept a recess appt? I'd be surprised if they would.

[B4Ranch]

"Why don't you tell us all your vision of the country when the Democrats return to power. Exactly what will you have accomplished? "

I'm almost to the point of saying I don't have any idea. Because when I see a "Republican "President selling our economy out to international corporations, being the most compassionate guy to our next door neighbors who don't even speak our language. Asking the American people to support most socialist programs any RINO Republican official could dream up if he was drunk.He refuses to close the borders to terrorists and the illegals.

US and Allied troops that invaded Normandy in 1944 = 250,000+
US troops that invaded Okinawa in 1945 = 550,000+
Illegal aliens that have invaded the United States in FY 2002 = 1.8 million +

Maybe just maybe, the republican Congress with a Democrat President won't feel as if they are going against the Party by refusing to go along with his wishes.

"I feel as though America has been bent over holding her ankles so long that she will never again be able to stand up with pride and face the American citizens proudly for being the land of opportunity to many of us. That was yesterday, tomorrow is what counts!"

[Leatherneck_MT]

Sorry

I respectfully disagree with voting for Bush is a no-brainer.

You can if you want. They have to win mine and so far they have not.

Cuss me, call me names, slander me, do whatever. It will only make me dig my heels in further.

Enact Conservative Legislation by reducing the size and scope of government, getting rid of the host of liberal BS that has been passed or you (The Republican Party) have lost my vote forever.

[Sabertooth]

But your analogy doesn't hold true. This is not a business, and we are not customers.

It's exactly true. Our vote is the currency of the business relationship with the politicians.

Their job performances are the product they offer. We vote or don't vote, accordingly.

This is a great country, blessed by God, and we are to be responsible citizens.

That means that we protest that with which we disagree, and then, in the end, use our vote for what will be in the best interest of the country.

That's the rationale by which you determine how best to spend your vote. It is not universally applicable. It never will be.

Nor is your calculation of "what will be in the best interest of the country" going to be universally applicable in the ballot box.

Just as no one is going to change your vote by imposing their rationale on you, you won't change theirs by imposing yours on them.

This is political reality.

I voted for the first President Bush in 1992, with a big clothespin on my nose. I thought he was a wimp against the Democrats. However, I never trusted Clinton, and learned to loathe him. Perot was a whackjob.

Yet, I don't hold Clinton voters or Perot voters responsible for President Bush 41's failure to win votes from 1988 that were his to lose. That's 100% his fault, and the fault of any other politician in a similar circumstance.

That the current President Bush will lose more votes than he gains with his Illegal Alien Amnesty is such a certainty as to be axiomatic. Therefore, he is squandering votes for the sake of the Illegals. This ticks me off, not at those voters, but at President Bush.

Why is he risking so much for something that is not only wrong, but wildly unpopular?

President Bush's Amnesty for Illegals is not only not "what will be in the best interest of the country" in terms of policy, but also in terms of politics. It's going to cost GOP votes, whether you think it should or not. The more he pushes it, the more votes will be lost.

That's not in the best interest of the country.

Therefore, it's in the best interest of the country that President Bush cease and desist his efforts for Amnesty.

[Ophiucus]

Please tell us how you harvest the crops w/o migrant Mexican workers?? Or are you willing to sacrifice agriculture??

Happens all the time in the Corn Belt where I grew up. Migrants kept on going to Chicago.

Having the migrants be legal won't hurt agriculture.

[BJClinton]

That's the number one litmus test for true conservatives: banning abortion.

Gotta disagree with you there, the number one litmus test is fiscal responsibility.

[Pern]

That's the EXACT same thing you all are saying to us.

Not at all, my main theme is 'vote your conscience'. It is, IMO, lack of common sense to vote for a person just because of loyalty to a political party. I feel this way because in La. most people are regestered Democrats (not me), but have real Conservative values. My family has always voted for the guy/gal they thought was right for the job, regardless of political party.

If you feel that strongly in favor of GW, by all means support him. As for myself, I think he's made critical mistakes, and will not.

[exmarine]

What I find ridiculous (there're very few things I "hate") is that anyone calling themselves a conservative would act in a way that would ensure an far far wider array of liberal-left policies to become law, i.e., by helping a Kerry, an Edward, a Clark, or a Dean to become president.

I'm so tired of that "lesser of two evils" crapola, I could vomit! How many times do I have to refute that FALLACY? One more time... a dem can only get elected if 40% or more of the people vote for a dem. I, on the other hand, will vote for a 3rd party candidate (Constitution Party). The definition of "responsibility" suggests that one can only be accountable for his own actions (I know socialism has warped that value so I'm glad to set you straight). Therefore, the people who vote for the dem are the ones that are responsible. The American people! So, get out my face with that tired old baloney.

Furthermore, my standard is the bible. There is no way you or anyone else can say I am wrong for voting for the candidate that best reflects biblical values. Go ahead - try and make a biblical case - you can't! Guess what - socialism isn't biblical.

[Howlin]

I'll put you down as no answer.

[MEG33]

Gen. Clark also has vets backing him.He is most qualified because he "won a war",he says, and saved over a million Albanians from genocide(he says).He also is more qualified because he is a general and Kerry was a(lowly) Lt..he says...goes over great with all the enlisted vets(I'm sure)

[Howlin]

I am over myself; I'm not the one here putting my vote up to the highest bidder.

[looscnnn]

"he is not in the race to win the nom. He is in the race for a place at the table."

Really? What is the place at the table that he is racing for? The nomination at the DNC. He has to have the nom in order to run as a Dem.

"I am not paranoid, I have seen what liberal policy's do to business, let alone to the over all strength of our economy and country."

Really? I have been told that we are a small and insignificant group, thus our votes will not affect the outcome of the election. If this is truely the case, then your rants are due to paranoia. After all, why else would you rant about something small and insignificant?

[ravingnutter]

The fine will be some BS minisule amount and the reward is that they will be allowed to remain here and pursue citizenship at all, which they do not deserve.

From what I heard the proposed amount is $1500. Not a small sum for someone who makes less than minimum wage

As was stated on another post yesterday. Someone contacted their senators office and they were told that Bush intends to use an executive order to implement the amnesty program.

Maybe a disruptor trying to stir up the pot? Bush clearly stated he would work with Congress:

"Today, I ask the Congress to join me in passing new immigration laws that reflect these principles, that meet America's economic needs, and live up to our highest ideals."

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