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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: MEG33; deport
MEG33: The rest would not agree to recess appointments is my understanding.

deport: Just how you going to get the others right now? You mentioned appoint recess appoint two more...... My question and you avoided was "what is the don't or didn't want a recess appointment? What are you going to do, force them?

Exactly how do you 'understand' this, MEG?

Did you just make it up or did they make public statements to that effect? Was there a White House announcement that I missed on FR that told us they refused a recess-appointment?

I'm not talking about Rove rumors and such. Exactly why do you believe this?

I don't think Bush (Rove) offered them the recess appointments. At least, we haven't had a thread on it here and I've seen no reporting to suggest that. Except that some people on this thread seem to want to believe it.
481 posted on 01/22/2004 9:22:02 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Sabertooth
You're a good man, Sabertooth, and I agree with much that you say.

But your analogy doesn't hold true. This is not a business, and we are not customers.

This is a great country, blessed by God, and we are to be responsible citizens.

That means that we protest that with which we disagree, and then, in the end, use our vote for what will be in the best interest of the country.

There are only two people who can win the election in November. Bush, or the Dem candidate.

That's the choice these people need to be honest enough to admit they're making.

If they do, so be it. But they need to live with their choice.

482 posted on 01/22/2004 9:22:06 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ostephani
I haven't EARNED the right to vote?

Of course you have, and if you choose to vote for Al Sharpton, that's your right.

The point I'm trying to get across is that veteran's know what the actual price of our freedom is. It's paid with blood and tears, and I will not dishonor past, present, and future soliders, sailors, airmen, and Marines by casting my vote because of loyalty to a political party.

483 posted on 01/22/2004 9:22:11 AM PST by Pern ("It's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people." - Johnny Cash, RIP)
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To: Howlin
"It proves that those of you screaming you are "the base" aren't. "

Is someone who voted REPUBLICAN for the past 36 years considered a REPUBLICAN voter in your mind?

I'm a "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN" who loves America and is very upset that OUR President is selling us down the road to the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

He's following the UNITED NATION'S AGENDA 21 PROGRAM to the damn letter! Start reading about it and then you will see where we're headed under his guidance.

UN Agenda 21 Dissolves United States Sovereignty

***EARTH SUMMIT U.N. AGENDA 21 *** or FREEDOM and SOVEREIGNTY SELLOUT ?

Holding the door open for our political leaders

484 posted on 01/22/2004 9:23:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Howlin
You mis-stated. The author didn't cite the broad support he claimed, and you fell for it. I don't.
485 posted on 01/22/2004 9:23:28 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Capt. Tom
Bump once again for a voice of reason. I like Zell and Breaux as well. I see room for both of them in W's second term.

Best regards,
Liberty

W'04
486 posted on 01/22/2004 9:23:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Pern
The point I'm trying to get across is that veteran's know what the actual price of our freedom is

Are you aware that the veterans, according to John Kerry and his pack of jackals, will be voting for HIM this year?

Brother in arms, all that.

487 posted on 01/22/2004 9:23:43 AM PST by Howlin
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To: looscnnn
I can't understand some of the people here. They say we are a very small minority, but then they start with the "Danger Will Robinson. Danger." "it is your fault that Bush will loose the election". Are we maybe a bigger group than we realize?

The problem is not necessarily our size it is that two things are happening. One we are a voice of decent, we are questioning the president's policies. A president that has the loyality of many. He once had mine. Second and more dangerous to them we are growing. As GWB has moved more to the left more are speaking up.
488 posted on 01/22/2004 9:23:56 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: looscnnn
See, that is one of the problems with the country, we are letting groups like the ACLU, Rainblow/Push, etc. run the country. Who cares if they don't like it, they don't like the Ten Commandments in schools, courts, etc.

Your way of thinking, Jesse Jackson will be back sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom, and if Al Sharpton gets 30% of the votes in SC, he will be there too.!!

489 posted on 01/22/2004 9:24:24 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: MeekOneGOP
YES! Meek, THANK YOU!

Any democrat Commander-in-Chief is not an option, it's suicide!


490 posted on 01/22/2004 9:24:41 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: PhiKapMom
>>>To me the WOT is the most important issue of the campaign.

Agreed!

Rush just said, he isn't worried, none of these "clowns" ---Kerry, Dean, Edwards, Clark --- will win. He's right. LOL

491 posted on 01/22/2004 9:24:44 AM PST by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY in 2004)
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To: Protagoras
You're either blind as a bat, or you're purposefully being deceitful.

Either way, you've proved you're not an honest debater.
492 posted on 01/22/2004 9:24:46 AM PST by Howlin
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To: DrDeb
Good Post DrDeb
493 posted on 01/22/2004 9:25:08 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: woodyinscc
Explain this to me; those of us that are talking of maybe not voting for Bush, are we a very small group? If so, "Let not your heart be troubled" because our little group will not change the results of the election.

Or are we a large group? If so, this would explain your being paranoid as we can truely affect the outcome. If that is the case, maybe Bush needs to seriously consider what we are saying.

So which are we, small and insignificant or big and significant?
494 posted on 01/22/2004 9:26:01 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: N3WBI3
WoW! That was a strange analogy.

President Bush is not taking conservatives for granted. He has to make real decisions in a real world, and some of those won't make conservatives happy.

It was true for Reagan, and it is true for Bush.

Besides which, no one was fooled into thinking he was a straight line conservative from the beginning IF they were listening.

He campaigned on education reform, and got it. He campaigned on reforming Medicare, and got it. He campaigned on tax cuts, and got them.

He's being true to his own principles, and in the end, Conservatives will get more from 8 years of his presidency than we did in 8 years with Reagan.

495 posted on 01/22/2004 9:26:23 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: woodyinscc
"This election will set the road we are to go down. Think a little, is this the road you want to follow?"

Maybe both roads end up at the same place, so then it really would not matter.
496 posted on 01/22/2004 9:27:09 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: B4Ranch
I, too, consider myself a conservative Repubican, despite being told repeatedly on this forum that I'm not a "real conservative."

And you have yet to answer my first question to you:

Why don't you tell us all your vision of the country when the Democrats return to power. Exactly what will you have accomplished?

Are you avoiding answering that?

497 posted on 01/22/2004 9:27:13 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"It proves that those of you screaming you are "the base" aren't."

Then why care about their ballot?
498 posted on 01/22/2004 9:28:06 AM PST by CSM (Council member Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: MEG33
Yes he is.
499 posted on 01/22/2004 9:28:31 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: looscnnn
So which are we, small and insignificant or big and significant?

small and insignificant

500 posted on 01/22/2004 9:28:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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