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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: dagnabbit
Come on, this is being done to try to curry favor with Hispanic voters and some types of businesses, and for no other reason. There is no principle at work here beyond pandering. Why else is this being pushed in an election year?

Please tell us how you harvest the crops w/o migrant Mexican workers?? Or are you willing to sacrifice agriculture?? Perhaps, he is addressing a problem??

Pray for W and The Truth

141 posted on 01/22/2004 7:59:59 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY and Her (9-5) Flying Monkeys are In Flames!)
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To: carton253
When it has already been answered so many times? No.

I will say this however. When Regan was president it was a different time and we had different problems. He was the perfect president FOR THAT TIME. I cannot say the same going forward for W.
142 posted on 01/22/2004 8:00:10 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I don't have a problem with you wanting to vote for the Constitution Party... that's what freedom is all about.

I don't even have a problem that you seem to a one issue voter. Stopping illegal immigration seems to be important to you.

I understand that your disappointment or disgust with President Bush means you can't (for conscience's sake) vote for him... that's all well and good.

So go and vote for Tancredo. Take pride that you have taken a stand for your beliefs. Take pride that you have voted on principle and struck a blow for true conversative tenets.

I don't agree with everything that the President stands for... No one does... not really.

But, I look at the democratic candidates... John Edwards or John Kerry or, even worse, Hillary Clinton... and I realize that disagreements or not, the President must be re-elected. Kerry, Edwards, Clinton aren't the answer. In fact, they are a disaster ready to happen.

So, go out and be happy and vote for your candidate... and when Kerry, Edwards, or Clinton wins... remember at least you voted your conscience. That will provide you some small comfort as healthcare comes under federal control, as medicaid is expanded, as we retreat on the war on terror, as we don't confront the terrorists, and as the borders are really opened...

143 posted on 01/22/2004 8:00:33 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got! (W)
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To: woodyinscc
"accomplish the huge chore that God gave him"


What chore would that be?
144 posted on 01/22/2004 8:01:16 AM PST by Blzbba
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To: Pern
Exactly how am I flushing this country down the drain? By not falling in step and voting for either the Democrat or Republican party? Unlike most 'conservatives', I've actually served this country, therefore, I've actually earned my vote. If I choose to 'throw it away' on a 3rd party candidate, it's my right. GWB got my vote in 2000, but he's not getting it in 2004. He has too much to answer for, in my book.

Couldn't have said it better myself, many thanks! Blackbird.

145 posted on 01/22/2004 8:01:29 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (.)
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To: Wolfstar
nice job and "president of all" is a well thought out comment.
146 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:06 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: Bikers4Bush
rewarding illegal aliens

Geez...next time I have to pay a speeding ticket, I guess I better thank the judge for "rewarding" me for breaking the law. From Bush's speech:

Undocumented workers now here will be required to pay a one-time fee to register for the temporary worker program. Those who seek to join the program from abroad, and have complied with our immigration laws, will not have to pay any fee.

Transcript

This so-called "fee" is a fine for breaking the immigration law, those who came in legally do not have to pay it.More:

Some temporary workers will make the decision to pursue American citizenship. Those who make this choice will be allowed to apply in the normal way. They will not be given unfair advantage over people who have followed legal procedures from the start. I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws, and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America.
So these people will be put at the back of the citizenship line, another of your so-called "rewards".

Besides, people seem to forget a basic fact that I learned in elementary school...the President does not make the laws, Congress does. Bush clearly stated the details would be up to Congress. There were already two plans out there before Bush's speech, one in the House and one in the Senate. The final plan is going to look nothing like what Bush laid out in his speech. Bush knows that. Was he pandering to the Hispanics? Probably. Is that going to affect my vote? Absolutely not. I commend him for putting the issue on the table for debate.

Instead of harping on and on about the Bush proposal, we need to write our Congresscritters and back the Tancredo proposal which can be found at the following link:

H.R. 3534 (introduced by Rep. Tom Tancredo)

147 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:28 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Wolfstar
During the Constitutional Convention, there was a proposal to created a national university. This was defeated not because the founders were against public education, but because they wanted to leave the matter to the states.

Did you intend to make his point, or was that a boo-boo?

148 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:37 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Keith
I will do what I think is best for the conservatives, sadly now I feel this include opposing BUsh.
149 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:51 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Keith
Read my tagline...no new liberal judges.

When Bush starts using his bully pulpit and starts standing up for his nominees, let me know.

150 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:52 AM PST by Jim Cane (Vote Tancredo in '04)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
that is a good reason to hold primaries and vote in conservatives not RINO, you work with the tools you have not with what you don't have.
151 posted on 01/22/2004 8:03:16 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: Wolfstar
From what I have seen on this forum there are some (not a lot, but some) who think anyone to the left of Buchanen or Pat Robertson is a socialist communist pinko rino cino leftist (did I miss any?) swine. I find it amusing that the President who is vilified by the left as the most radical conservative in the history of the country is at the same time vilified by the hard right as a being nothing more than a Dem in Rep clothing.

As for me? I like him. I trust him. And, MOST (not all, but most) of the time I agree with him. And that earns him my vote.

152 posted on 01/22/2004 8:03:17 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
If you prefer living with a Kerry,Clark,Edwards,or Dean Presidency than a Bush Presidency,I have no words or arguments that can help change your mind.I regret it,but know I cannot change it.
153 posted on 01/22/2004 8:03:30 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Wolfstar
Well you stirred up the Keyword gestapo.... Lest we forget.

Priscilla Owen, Miguel Estrada, Carolyn Kuhl, Janice Rogers Brown, Thomas Pickering, William Pryor, Claude Allen

154 posted on 01/22/2004 8:03:48 AM PST by deport ( Owen, Kuhl, Brown, Pickering, Pryor, Allen.. [Estrada, they won])
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To: carton253
Bump
155 posted on 01/22/2004 8:04:02 AM PST by new cruelty (Better the devil you know than the devil you don't)
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To: Chief901
Mike Peroutka, there was an article yesterday about him. No doubt it has been pulled by now.
156 posted on 01/22/2004 8:04:33 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Wolfstar
none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO."

Bush: "You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes."

Clinton, 1998: "Last year, together we enacted targeted tax cuts so that the typical middle class family will now have the lowest tax rates in 20 years."

Bush: "We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing."

Clinton, 1998: "Now we must make our public elementary and secondary schools the world's best as well. By raising standards, raising expectations and raising accountability. Thanks to the actions of this Congress last year, we will soon have for the very first time a voluntary national test based on national standards in fourth grade reading and eighth grade math. Parents have a right to know whether their children are mastering the basics... It is time to end social promotion in America's schools."

Bush: "Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons."

Clinton, 1998: "We must combat an unholy axis of new threats from terrorists, international criminals and drug traffickers. These 21st century predators feed on technology and the free flow of information and ideas and people, and they will be all the more lethal if weapons of mass destruction fall into their hands... I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein: 'You cannot defy the will of the world'... and when I say to him, 'You have used weapons of mass destruction before. We are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.'"

Bush: "Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror."

Clinton 1998: "I wish all of you could have seen our troops in Tuzla. They're very proud of what they're doing in Bosnia and we're all very proud of them."

Bush: "Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people."

Clinton 1999: "Third, we must help all Americans, from their first day on the job, to save, to invest, to create wealth. From its beginning, Americans have supplemented Social Security with private pensions and savings. Yet today, millions of people retire with little to live on other than Social Security. Americans living longer than ever simply must save more than ever. Therefore, in addition to saving Social Security and Medicare, I propose a new pension initiative for retirement security in the 21st century. I propose that we use a little over 11 percent of the surplus to establish universal savings accounts -- USA accounts -- to give all Americans the means to save. With these new accounts, Americans can invest as they choose, and receive funds to match a portion of their savings, with extra help for those least able to save."

And that's after only a few minutes of looking.

157 posted on 01/22/2004 8:04:39 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: ohioWfan
You guys who threaten not to vote for Bush because he hasn't done enough for YOU need to start to think about the COUNTRY above your own egos!

Exactly, the excuses the "purest of the pure" are going from the absurd to the ridiculous.

A thread posted by World Nut Daily, quoted a "counselor" who said her patients were having anxiety attacks over Bush's immigration proposal.

Oh well, I guess he lost the Zoloft vote.

158 posted on 01/22/2004 8:05:02 AM PST by Dane
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To: All
Has anyone seen Drudge? Is that the BIG BREAKING NEWS on Edwards? Does he really think John Q. American is going to care, I thought we were getting something major.....

Oh well
159 posted on 01/22/2004 8:05:57 AM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: q_an_a
I will write in Tancredo in the primary. But vote constitution in the general election.
160 posted on 01/22/2004 8:06:18 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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