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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: looscnnn
Hmmmm? Doesn't the proposal provide for a "fine" to be paid by each alien requesting a guest worker pass .. such as a person who committed a crime would be required to pay ..?? Then and only then the person would be allowed to enter the worker program ..??
1,281 posted on 01/22/2004 2:50:51 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: Howlin
"They never intended to vote for Bush and are using whatever they can to justify that stance. "

Not true. Bush had my vote (even though I disagreed with his spending policies) right up until the immigration proposal. I had every intention of just holding my nose and voting for him anyway until that. Right now though I am just not sure what I will do with my vote. All his defenders seem to do though is ridicule and insult rather than real debate so that surely isn't swaying me in that direction. Of course, I am not really expecting you to sway me anyway. I am expecting Bush to sway me between now and November.
1,282 posted on 01/22/2004 2:50:51 PM PST by honeygrl (If you think the Constitution Party is such a joke, then why do you seem so afraid of it?)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Howlin
Don't get discouraged. This was not started as a Bush-bashing thread. Let the naysayers rant. Those of us with positive things to say about the President can post what we believe to be useful and true. The trick is to avoid getting drawn into their circular nonsense arguments. If you do that, you're playing by their rules. We'll never convince them, but then they are't who we want to reach, anyway.
1,283 posted on 01/22/2004 2:50:58 PM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: Porterville
Reading your posts has helped me understand (kind of) what that bill says and what it will do; unfortunately, my mother did not "pass" the economics/business gene to me. ;-)
1,284 posted on 01/22/2004 2:51:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: exmarine
GROUPTHINK is the problem - it has brainwashed people into thinking that they have no choice outside these 2 corrupt parties. I say, RUBBISH!

I said "rubbish", too, in 1992 when I voted for Perot. Bolting is not only flawed strategy, we learned first-hand that it brings us the exact opposite of what we want.

1,285 posted on 01/22/2004 2:51:33 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Neets; deport; gatorbait; woodyinscc
President Bush enjoys the highest approval rating of any president at this point in his term since Dwight David Eisenhower in 1956.
1,286 posted on 01/22/2004 2:52:31 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: honeygrl
Oh Please! I worked in the fields and so did my father and his family. I can't believe you were actually playing the PC card and now the race card. Pathetic! Mexican's come over the border to pick our crops. I ain't going to do it and neither are you or your parents!

If you are insulted by reality, get over it! Go to any farm in the west and tell me where I am wrong?? Now tell me how the agriculture industry is going to survive w/o cheap Mexican labor?

Pray for W and The Truth

1,287 posted on 01/22/2004 2:52:49 PM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY and Her (9-5) Flying Monkeys are In Flames!)
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To: gatorbait
Constipation Party.

Soda through the nose line. Oh man - I just settled with the (Anti)Constitution Party.

The next incarnation - is that Lymann(sp?)

1,288 posted on 01/22/2004 2:53:04 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: international american
This is not my quote. If you want to quote terrorists under the guise of Christianity, go for it!

- I'm well aware of who said it to you and your Amen. I also think you and whomever else has this urge to call upon God might pay better attention to who ever else is hiding behind it ,too.Ever heard of that passage about God helping those who help themselves? . Vote Constitution Party, Al Qaeda will love you for it. For me,I'll stand with W. You can stand somewhere else.

1,289 posted on 01/22/2004 2:53:07 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: ohioWfan
I said LONG ago on this thread, Vote for whomever you like. Just understand that a vote for your "Constitution" favorite is the same thing as a vote for a Democrat...

And then you won't object if the Constitution Party people say 'Just understand that a vote for GWB is the same thing as a vote for a Democrat'?

Neither statement is true. A vote is, by definition, cast for the person who received it and no one else.

These often-heard notions of punishment-voting and strategic-voting and crossover-voting have never been demonstrated to sway a single major election. They are, for all the evidence ever produced to support them, little more than political old-wives-tales. I'd say the Greens with Nader in 2000 would be the strongest evidence for it but we still can't prove convincingly that those Lefties would have turned out for Gore if Nader hadn't entered.
1,290 posted on 01/22/2004 2:54:12 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Neets
There was a poll mentioned in one of Hill type sheets that indicated that some 62% of the voters between 18 and 29 were supporting President Bush.... No democrat has ever one the Presidency without winning that segment of voters it said.....

I didn't mark it for future references, I should have.... Dynamics of the the elections are changing and those holding onto the past will find themselved doomed to failure. You have to deal with what is the present
1,291 posted on 01/22/2004 2:56:19 PM PST by deport ( Owen, Kuhl, Brown, Pickering, Pryor, Allen.. [Estrada, they won])
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To: ravingnutter; Protagoras
"Typical disruptor...run when you get caught in a lie, it certainly reveals YOUR agenda. Say hi to the folks at DU for us, "

Oh give me a break. Protagoras has been on FR almost as long as you.
1,292 posted on 01/22/2004 2:56:25 PM PST by honeygrl (If you think the Constitution Party is such a joke, then why do you seem so afraid of it?)
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To: JustPiper
From 1991 to 2004, all talk and no action.

"Say what they want to hear and the sheeples will follow."

1,293 posted on 01/22/2004 2:57:34 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: honeygrl
Please. You all are giving just as good as you get.
1,294 posted on 01/22/2004 2:57:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: onyx; deport
If I may muddy up this thread with this scathing post

What Americans Really Think of Bush's State of the Union Speech

Newsmax.com ^ | 01/22/2004 | Carl Limbacher

New numbers from the Office of Strategic Initiatives show overwhelming support for President Bush and say that 76 percent rated the speech favorably, and 70 percent say the policies outlined in the speech will move the nation in the right direction, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

But Bush has Americans' favor all the way around:

* 69% express satisfaction with their financial situation (NBC/WSJ)

* 68% approve of Bush's handling of terrorism (NYT)

* 64% rate Bush as a strong leader (CBS/NYT)

* 59% say Bush cares about their needs and problems (CBS/NYT)

* 58% say the Bush administration has made progress on the economy (CBS/NYT) * 58% approve of the president's job performance (ABC/Wash. Post)

* 54% approve of Bush's handling of the economy (Gallup)

* 54% favor the new Medicare law (NBC/WSJ)

When it comes to siding with the GOP or the Dems, Americans favor the GOP on national defense by 37 points, moral values by 22 points, foreign policy by 15 points, and taxes and controlling spending by 2 points.

1,295 posted on 01/22/2004 2:58:14 PM PST by Neets (Dean: "I came in 4th in the Iowa Caucas and all I got was an anxiety attack- YEEEEAAGH")
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To: onyx
Are you going to be around for the rat debate later? This one should be a doozy.!
1,296 posted on 01/22/2004 2:58:54 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: gatorbait
I have voted for Republicans since 1972. I will not vote otherwise, other than possibly abstaining altogether. Why don't you ask the President we voted for why he sells us down the river, instead of castigating me for being PO'D.

1,297 posted on 01/22/2004 3:00:31 PM PST by international american (support our troops...........................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: Tamsey
The reason why Perot failed was because of the power of groupthink, although he got 22% I believe.

We need conservative voices and leaders who are conservative but don't follow the herd.

1,298 posted on 01/22/2004 3:01:01 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Ophiucus
The rise of media has meant the decline of importance of conventions as candidates are selected by the popular vote through the media and not by by convention deals. The saying is that Lincoln would not have won nomination in today's politics but Clinton never would have been nominated by party bosses in convention.

Actually, I think the vote decline started when television started showing us what kind of weirdos both parties contained.

Before that time, people could think that it was just their own delegates who were, well, odd. But the conventions made it clear the two parties were the Nutball Express.

Ever see the Libertarians on CSPAN? How about the 2000 Reform Party nuttiness?

In any given year, it's pretty much a tossup which convention will prove more boring/embarassing to the public.

Television has not been kind to politics.
1,299 posted on 01/22/2004 3:01:02 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Ophiucus; nopardons; onyx; Howlin; FairOpinion
The next incarnation - is that Lymann(sp?)

There was a thread on the new wunderkind Peroutta , though I am uncertain if this is correct. By the way, looks like I am now going to enjoy the tender mercies of the Cromwell wannabees. Ah well, they have their solace in the Word acording to St Sobran.

1,300 posted on 01/22/2004 3:01:06 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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