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Retired judge chosen to preside over Scott Peterson murder trial
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, January 21, 2004 | Kim Curtis

Posted on 01/22/2004 5:39:59 AM PST by runningbear

Retired judge chosen to preside over Scott Peterson murder trial

Retired judge chosen to preside over Scott Peterson murder trial

KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, January 21, 2004

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(01-21) 12:17 PST SAN FRANCISCO (AP) --

The judge presiding over Scott Peterson's murder trial will be Richard Arnason, a retired Contra Costa County judge chosen Wednesday by California Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald George.

Scott Peterson's murder trial is being moved to the San Francisco Bay area because of hostility toward Peterson in his dead wife's hometown.

Judge Al Girolami ruled earlier this month that the trial had to be moved out of Modesto to make sure Peterson got a fair trial in the slaying of his wife, Laci, and unborn son.

Four counties had offered to host the trial, and on Tuesday the judge picked San Mateo County, situated south of San Francisco and about 90 miles away from Modesto.

Girolami had said he wanted a county close enough to Modesto that witnesses could drive there.

"I'm satisfied we can get a fair and impartial jury in San Mateo," Girolami said, adding that he wants another judge appointed to handle the trial.

Arnason, 83, was appointed to the Contra Costa County Superior Court by Gov. Pat Brown in 1963.

No stranger to high profile court drama, Arnason presided over People v. Angela Davis in which the black militant was acquitted of murder and conspiracy in the 1970 Marin County courthouse escape attempt that resulted in the deaths of four people, including a judge.

Arnason also oversaw the trial of a California woman whose 13-year-old daughter weighed 680 pounds when she died of congestive heart failure in 1996.

The trial is scheduled to start Monday but will probably be postponed. A hearing is scheduled later this week to discuss a delay. Prosecutors asked for two weeks to move their operation from Stanislaus County to San Mateo County.

Peterson, 31, is charged with two counts of murder for allegedly killing his pregnant wife just before Christmas 2002 and dumping her body in the San Francisco Bay. In April, her remains and those of the fetus she was carrying washed ashore in the bay two miles from where her husband said he was fishing when she vanished. Peterson could get the death penalty.

Peterson's lawyers argued that he had been demonized in the Modesto area, citing vandalism of his house, crowds yelling "Murderer!" outside the jail and T-shirts sold with Peterson's likeness and the motto: "Modesto, a killer place to live." Blood drives have been held in honor of Laci Peterson and 3,000 people attended her internationally televised memorial service.

The trial will now be held in Redwood City, a .........

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Contra Costa judge Arnason to hear trial of Scott Peterson


Judge Richard Arnason at the Martinez courthouse today. (Bob Pepping/Contra Costa Times)

Posted on Wed, Jan. 21, 2004

Contra Costa judge Arnason to hear trial of Scott

Peterson By Claire Booth

CONTRA COSTA TIMES

Contra Costa Superior Court Judge Richard Arnason, who juggles a calendar as busy as any in the Martinez courthouse, even though he has retired, will preside over the murder trial of Scott Peterson in San Mateo County, state officials announced today.

Arnason was assigned by Chief Justice Ronald George today to preside over the double murder trial. The case was moved to Redwood City because of extensive pretrial publicity in Stanislaus County.

Peterson, 31, is accused of murdering his eight-months pregnant wife, Laci Peterson of Modesto, and their unborn son in the early morning hours of Christmas Eve in 2002. Their bodies were found along the Richmond shoreline in April 2003.

In 41 years on the bench, Arnason has handled many complex cases, including that of Angela Davis. Davis was charged with murder, kidnapping and conspiracy in connection with a 1970 Marin County court shootout where four people, including a judge, were killed.

More recently, Arnason presided over the case of a former Stockton gang member who was sentenced to life in prison for murdering retired plastic surgeon Kim Fang during a home invasion robbery in Alamo in 2000.

Technically retired since 1995, Arnason, 82, still sits on the bench and gets paid on a per-day basis.

"There's Methuselah in the Bible, and there's Judge Arnason," state appellate justice and former county judge James Marchiano said in a 2001 interview.

Gov. Edmund G. "Pat" Brown appointed Arnason, an Antioch lawyer, to the bench in 1963. The judge has handled criminal law ever since, outlasting lawyers and judges that came before and after him.

"I had a long, lengthy career in the D.A.'s office that will have started and ended while Arnason's been on the bench," said former District Attorney Gary Yancey in 2001.

But it's not Arnason's longevity that is most admired.

"He exudes a sense of respect for other human beings, and he seems to know what it's like to be in someone else's shoes," said Public Defender David Coleman........

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Peterson judge appointed

Peterson judge appointed

By Michelle Durand, Daily Journal Staff

When the Scott Peterson murder trial begins it will be a hodgepodge of resources, venues and participants from throughout the state — a crime in Stanislaus county, an arrest and defense attorney from Southern California and a trial in San Mateo County.

Now added to that list is retired Contra Costa County Judge Richard Earle Arnason, 82, who was tapped yesterday to preside over what stands to be the most publicized criminal trial since O.J. Simpson.

Arnason served for 31 years on the Contra Costa County Superior Court before his 1995 retirement. His record is filled with high-profile cases although Peterson’s will likely make Arnason a well-known name much as Judge Lance Ito did during the Simpson double murder trial.

Arnason was picked for the slot by state Chief Justice Ronald George a day after Stanislaus County Judge Al Girolami announced the case would move to San Mateo County. Girolami said he thought San Mateo County offered Peterson, a 31-year-old fertilizer salesman, the fairest shot at an objective jury. That jury will be charged with deciding whether Peterson is guilty of murdering his pregnant wife, Laci, 28, and the couple’s unborn son near Christmas Eve 2002. Peterson faces the death penalty if he is found guilty.

Girolami declined to hear the case himself because he did not want to travel and asked the Judicial Council of California to appoint a successor.

Arnason, who was appointed to the Contra Costa County Superior Court in 1963, is no stranger to death penalty cases. Arnason, who was not receiving media calls yesterday, is well-known as a criminal law expert, said Lynn Holton, council spokeswoman.

Arnason attended college at the University of North Dakota before moving onto law school at the University of California, Berkeley. He received his degree in 1945 and worked in private practice in the East Bay before joining the bench. In 1973, he was named Judge of the Year by the California Trial Lawyers Association.

Despite his retirement, he continues presiding over cases through the Assigned Judges Program at the standard rate of $529.32 daily. The program provides temporary judicial assignments to alleviate court congestion, fill vacancies or to handle change of venue requests. Arnason has participated since his retirement.

He heard the murder case of a Stockton gang member convicted of killing a plastic surgeon during a 2000 home invasion robbery. Soknoeun Nem was eligible for the death penalty in that case but instead Arnason imposed life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Arnason also presided over the 1972 murder/kidnapping trail of African-American activist Angela Davis. Davis was acquitted of murder and conspiracy in a 1970 shoot-out at the Marin County courthouse in which four people died.

In 1998, Arnason found El Cerrito resident Marlene Corrigan guilty of misdemeanor child abuse after her 13-year-old daughter died of congestive heart failure two years previous. The girl had weighed 680 pounds. Arnason sentenced Corrigan to probation and community service but dismissed felony child endangerment charges.

Also in 1998, Arnason halted death penalty proceedings against Jesse Martinez despite the man’s assertions that he wanted to go to death row. Arnason declared doubt about Martinez’s mental state although he said he has no illness. Martinez was convicted of murdering a 57-year-old convenience store clerk in September 1994.

Arnason was among the first judges to try a case under Proposition 21, the California law which allows minors to be charged as adults in certain crimes.

He has never tried any criminal cases in San Mateo County, said Chief Deputy ........

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FCSL forensics conference: The Pursuit of Truth

FCSL forensics conference: The Pursuit of Truth


Jagdeep S. Bhandari, professor of law at Florida Coastal School of Law, discusses the school’s upcoming conference, entitled Forensic Investigation: The Pursuit of Truth.

by Richard Prior
Staff Writer

The “big top of forensic investigation” will be in the shape of one large tent May 7 as Florida Coastal School of Law presents a conference featuring the nation’s top forensics experts.

The conference, which will be limited to 500 spectators, will be held at the Adam’s Mark Hotel. “We’re trying to give people exposure to the nation’s top forensic experts, the real CSI, the pursuit of truth,” said Eric Smith, associate dean for External Affairs and director of the Center for Strategic Governance and International Initiatives. “This is a world-class event.”

The line-up includes Sen. Arlen Specter, who concluded that a single bullet caused President John F. Kennedy’s neck wounds and all of the nonfatal wounds inflicted on Texas Gov. John Connally; and Dr. Cyril Wecht, Allegheny County (Pa.) coroner and founder of the Cyril Wecht Institute of Forensic Science and Law at Duquesne University School of Law.

Wecht has argued against the “tale of the magic bullet” since Specter proposed it in 1964 and it became part of the Warren Commission’s findings.

“My understanding is they’re good buddies,” said Smith. “They’ve made a lifetime arguing the theory.” Other speakers include:

• Dr. Henry C. Lee, a forensic scientist and criminalist, best known for his work in high-profile cases such as O.J. Simpson, Vince Foster and JonBenet Ramsey.

• Dr. Michael Baden, co-director of the New York State Police Medicolegal Investigation Unit. His cases include the examination of the remains of Czar Nicholas and his family, the death of John Belushi and the disappearance and death of Laci Peterson.

• Barry Scheck, professor of law and director of clinical education at New York’s Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law. The co-founder of the Innocence Project has represented clients such as O.J. Simpson and au pair Louise Woodward.

• Ann Wolbert Burgess, RN, professor at William F. Connell School of Nursing at Boston College and a renowned researcher, author, educator and advanced practice psychiatric nurse.

The law school also expects to have lawyer and author Scott Turow attend the conference, perhaps making a public speech before the event gets under way. “This law school and the Cyril Wecht Institute are bringing the people who are behind the scenes in one respect and yet very much in the forefront of the cases that are out there now,” said Smith.

The public’s knowledge of forensic science has been boosted by the popularity of two CSI shows on CBS, which has been responsible for making it “the No. 1 network,” said Jarrod Turner, FCSL’s director of Institutional Support and one of the conference’s organizers.

“One cannot overstate the value of forensic science in our search for truth in criminal, civil and family medicolegal investigations and court proceedings,” said Wecht. “This conference is designed to explore and inform professionals and academics, from a variety of disciplines and fields, of the value and scope of forensic science as a powerful investigative tool.” The idea for the conference, “the guy that’s riding the point on this,” Smith said, Is Professor Jagdeep Bhandari, who worked on the project with the school’s new owners, Sterling Partners.

“It is he who brought the idea to the table,” said Smith. “Without him, this dog doesn’t hunt.” Bhandari has taught economics, done international transaction and immigration work, and has worked at the World Bank. He has also worked with several of those who will be at the conference, including Lee, Wecht and Scheck.

“It was a matter of making a lot of phone calls,” said Bhandari. “Henry Lee consults to 12 governments. You can’t talk to him on the telephone. Or Barry Scheck, unless they know who you are.

“I had to use up all the capital I had to say, ‘Come to Florida, and we’ll show you a good time.’” The conference has been approved for continuing legal, medical and nursing education.

“It’s good for professionals and for interested lay people as well,” said Smith. “We’re hoping that, not just national and international people, but local people will attend.”

Smith expects the rush will be on soon for tickets to the conference, which will “comfortably accommodate” an audience of about 500 at the Adam’s Mark. Those who are interested in attending may register online at www.fcsl.edu/forensics or by phoning (888) 24........

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Jury selection a tedious process

Jury selection a tedious process

By Dana Yates, Daily Journal Staff

In the coming weeks, hundreds of potential jurors in San Mateo County will receive court summons attached to a pleasant letter highlighting the positive side of the responsibility.

“It’s a really nice letter that tells them that they can bring laptops, where to find parking, how to get a parking permit and how to check the Web site,” said San Mateo County Presiding Judge Mark Forcum.

Despite the cheery tone, the process of picking a jury for the Scott Peterson trial will be long and painful for all involved.

Peterson, a Modesto fertilizer salesman, is charged with the murder of his wife Laci Peterson and their unborn child. If convicted, Peterson could face the death penalty or life in prison.

“The jury selection will be tremendously important for both the defense and prosecution. In this particular case, it won’t go as routine. Given the length of the trial they will go through an extensive procedure,” said Jim Hartnett, an attorney with Hartnett, Smith & Associates and a Redwood City Councilmember.

For potential jurors, it’s going to be long and tedious. For attorneys, it’s going to be crucial and possibly very expensive.

Those who receive a summons will be pooled together in the courthouse and given a questionnaire to determine if a lengthy trial would create a hardship for them. Those who can afford to devote months to the trial are randomly divided into “panels” of approximately 60, said Forcum.

Each panel is sent to a courtroom where attorneys question them in person. People may be questioned individually, as a group or with a lengthy questionnaire. The judge determines the process and scope of questioning. Retired Judge Richard Arnason, 82, was chosen yesterday to oversee the Peterson case. The trial is expected to last five months.

Questions could range from religion to family history. Each side has 20 opportunities to eliminate jurors in what’s called a peremptory challenge. Jurors can be eliminated for any reason except on the basis of race, said Jeff Boyarski, a San Mateo County defense attorney.

In most high-profile cases, attorneys often hire consultants to analyze the jury pool and recommend selections. Consultant groups, like the Oakland-based National Jury Project, provide services ranging from demographic studies to mock trials.

“They do a lot of studies on cases and what their outcomes have been. They help with preparing questionnaires, change of venues — if you want to go full board, they can get sample jurors before they are tried,” said Boyarski.

Depending on the type of money Peterson can afford to drop on this trial, consultants can create trial scenarios by picking different types of focus groups to act as juries before the real trial ever starts. The focus groups allow the defense to figure out how different types of jurors would respond.

Sequestering the jury might prove to more difficult than choosing one.........

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We have a judge!

Article Last Updated: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 1:59:49 PM PST

We have a judge!

By Jason Dearen - STAFF WRITER

REDWOOD CITY - Retired Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge Richard Arnason, a jurist with long experience in trying complex murder cases, was named today to preside over the Laci Peterson murder trial.

California Supreme Court Justice Ronald George made the announcement just one day after the trial was moved to the County by Stanislaus County Judge Al Girolami to San Mateo County.

Laci Peterson was reported missing on Christmas Eve 2002. Her body and the body of her unborn child washed ashore in Richmond four months later. Her husband, Scott Peterson, 31, is the alleged killer, and faces two counts of murder and the death penalty.

Arnason is a well-known criminal law expert who has extensive experience with death penalty cases. He sat on the Contra Costa County Superior Court bench for 31 years before his retirement in 1995.


Members of the media tour the courtroom in Redwood City Tuesday, where the murder case against Scott Peterson is to be tried. Judge Al Girolami ruled Tuesday that the case will be moved to San Mateo County after rejecting a prosecution request to keep the case in Modesto. Peterson, 31, is charged with two counts of murder for allegedly killing his pregnant wife just before Christmas 2002 and dumping her body in San Francisco Bay. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)

The judge is a member of the Chief Justice's Assigned Judges Program, which assigns judges to preside criminal trials. He has done so primarily in Contra Costa County. Arnason was one of the first judges to try a case under Proposition 21, the law that allows prosecutors to file felony charges for some offenses against juveniles 14 years or older without a judge's approval.

He also presided over the murder-kidnapping trial in the case of Angela Davis, a UCLA professor and radical activist who supported the Black Panthers and others during the 1960s and 1970s. She was acquitted and continued her academic and writing career. Judge Mark Forcum, the presiding judge in San Mateo County, said he will provide Arnason all of the support he needs during what is expected to be a lengthy and contentious trial. Admitted to the California Bar in 1945, Arnason attended Boalt Hall School of Law at UC Berkeley.

Arnason's appointment was the latest event in a fast-moving drama that began Tuesday when the hyper-publicized trial was sent here from Stanislaus County.

With its high profile and masses of media from around the world, the trial may easily become the biggest criminal event in County history, while bringing millions of visitor dollars to hotels and retail outlets.

Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami moved the trial after finding that Peterson, 31, could not receive a fair trial in Modesto because of extensive media coverage. An hour after Girolami sent the trial to the County, television camera crews and newspaper reporters began arriving in droves.

"I'm satisfied we can get a fair and impartial jury in San Mateo," Girolami said from a Modesto courtroom Tuesday. .........

Peterson attorney cites burden borne by defendant's parents

Peterson attorney cites burden borne by defendant's parents

By Harriet Ryan

Court TV

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 Posted: 4:12 PM EST (2112 GMT)


Peterson, left, and attorney Mark Geragos.

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(Court TV) -- Scott Peterson's lawyer said Tuesday the double-murder suspect's parents have spent a million dollars on his defense.

Attorney Mark Geragos made the disclosure while asking Superior Court Judge Al Girolami to move the trial to southern California, closer to the Petersons' San Diego home, as well as Geragos' office in Los Angeles.

He said Jackie and Lee Peterson's funding "has saved the taxpayer's a seven-figure sum, at least" and asked the judge to consider which venue was more convenient and cheaper for them.

He noted that his client has the right to ask the taxpayer's to foot some of the bill if he can no longer afford private representation, but has so far not exercised that right.

Under California law, if a capital defendant becomes indigent before the conclusion of his or her trial, a judge can order the local government to pay the private attorney's costs, albeit at a reduced rate.

Prosecutor Dave Harris objected to the mention of the Petersons' finances, saying the defense team starts talking about public money whenever "the court doesn't give them their way."

In the end, Girolami said Southern California was too far from Modesto .........

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To: Howlin; maggiefluffs; joyce11111
Whoa--that was quick! And looking at the details in the article posted by joyce11111, now I see why the prosecution didn't want him as judge.

Geez, I didn't even take the time to read up on the guy, so I didn't even have time to agonize about the probable result if he had heard the trial! I'm glad he's out.
41 posted on 01/22/2004 7:08:59 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
Thanks for the article. I'm always glad when you post the latest Rickamorti scoop! They are always interesting.

This one seems, um, a little farfetched.

But... if she really spoke to Brocchini in MARCH, the question is, did she THEN mention the bit about sinking someone in the bay with weights? IF she did, then her story may be a lot more worthwhile than it sounds right now.
42 posted on 01/22/2004 7:11:32 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
P.S. I can just imagine chatting with one's husband over dinner one evening: "Well, dear, how was your day? I stopped in a bar at lunch and a man came up and asked me if I wanted to have an affair. How was YOUR day?"

43 posted on 01/22/2004 7:14:28 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Jackie-O
OLD SUCK-TOOTH!! LOL!!!

Scott needs to give up all these exotic pastimes like toilet paper crafts, and just do what other prisoners do to pass the time: cover himself with homemade tattoos. Let's mail him some ink pens and a pin!

44 posted on 01/22/2004 7:17:22 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
The "hates Geragos" part should be easy; the "tough on crime" part, now that's another matter.
45 posted on 01/22/2004 7:19:05 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
SECRET WITNESS; SCOTT TOLD ME HE WANTED TO KILL LACI!

If this Peggy Gagnon is for real, it certainly would be a smoking gun.

I can only say, Scott had to either be high on something, drunk out of his gourd, or an absolute idiot to discuss killing your wife with someone.

46 posted on 01/22/2004 7:24:52 PM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: runningbear
Thanks for doing such a great job on the updates & pings!
47 posted on 01/22/2004 7:40:39 PM PST by drjulie
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To: Devil_Anse
"But... if she really spoke to Brocchini in MARCH, the question is, did she THEN mention the bit about sinking someone in the bay with weights? IF she did, then her story may be a lot more worthwhile than it sounds right now."

True, but her story is in the NE. Does this mean she sold it? If so, that may be a problem for the prosecution. Didn't this happen in the OJ trial? I think a potential witness was discredited because she sold her story.
48 posted on 01/22/2004 7:43:58 PM PST by drjulie
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To: Velveeta; maggiefluffs; Devil_Anse; runningbear; Jackie-O; Sandylapper; Canadian Outrage; Howlin
Well, now that Scaught is gonna be movin' on down the road to San Mateo, makes me wonder if the "500 lynch-mob folks" will be there to watch the cop car leave the jail like they did when Scaught arrived.

Better yet, maybe they'll form a caravan to the Bay Area. The media will likely try to follow with their camera crews.

Since Scaughty's social life has been altered, thanks to law enforcement, maybe the authorities will offer a gesture of kindness to him - like taking the loooong way to Redwood City. Rather than crossing over the Bay on the San Mateo Bridge, they could circle up past Berkeley, check out a few fishing spots, then back to Oakland and cross via the Bay Bridge.

A nice drive through the Embarcadero, Fisherman's Wharf, Chinatown, and then the short jaunt down 101 to his new digs. Yeah, I think that'll work out just fine. :)
49 posted on 01/22/2004 7:48:15 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: drjulie
Doesn't sound like she'll be a witness to me, unless she hasn't received a subpoena yet - The gag order and all that kinda stuff.
50 posted on 01/22/2004 7:50:57 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Devil_Anse
It seemed farfetched to me as well, but Brocchini did talk to her. I wonder if she ever took the lie detector test??

Must say though, I'll have to take a peek at her picture next time I'm in the grocery line. The part about Snotty asking her if she wants to have an affair rings true too!
51 posted on 01/22/2004 8:20:12 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse
ROFL!
52 posted on 01/22/2004 8:21:19 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Spunky
Seems like he might have been quite the imbiber. Remember that pic of him with Amber sitting on his lap? He didn't look like he was feeling any pain that night either.
53 posted on 01/22/2004 8:24:20 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Diver Dave
they could circle up past Berkeley

Of course, they would be doing this simply to avoid the rabid lynch mob and media. I love it! (insert evil laughter)

54 posted on 01/22/2004 8:29:45 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: drjulie
Just my opinion: You BET she sold it! And I think her story stinks anyway!

Not that I don't wish a secret, smoking-gun witness WOULD appear in this case!
55 posted on 01/22/2004 8:32:53 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Diver Dave
Ah, yes! Fisherman's Wharf is so nice!

Bwahahaha...

I certainly HOPE those 5 million hecklers don't show up for Scott's arrival in San Mateo! Then we'll have to hear Carmen Sabatino pronounce that THAT place is unfit for His Majesty's trial, too.

Wonder if Scott recently got a fortune cookie in his jail food that said, "You will be going on a journey."
56 posted on 01/22/2004 8:35:52 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
Me too, me too! I wanna see her "dumpy" looks and greasy hair!

This is ridiculous! Would Scott have gone for a woman that much older than he is? I doubt it. Not only is there the age difference, contrary to the male nature, but there is that little nagging feeling a guy like Scott might get, "Hmmm... an older woman might not believe my tall tales so quickly!" Plus, Scott is supposed to be such a practiced and easy liar and conner. Would he have just jumped right in with "You want to have an affair?" I doubt that seriously! I mean, talk about an approach that would send virtually any woman screaming in the other direction...
57 posted on 01/22/2004 8:40:03 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
That's a good point, about his imbibing. I remember that in several of the early photos of him, some with Laci, people noticed that he looked "hammered".
58 posted on 01/22/2004 8:41:45 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
She might have looked less dumpy and he may have mistaken the greasy hair for a Breck sheen, if he'd been sitting there for a while tossing back a few.

So who do you think is cuter, Victor/Victoria or Penny?
59 posted on 01/22/2004 8:44:10 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
I think her vision was a bit impaired, too, considering she said something like "I noticed him b/c he is so handsome." Gag.

Notice how pat her answer was, as to why she remembered his name: the name Scott was especially liked by her grandmother, or something like that. It's like she's already anticipating people's doubts about her story.

And, I mean, let's think of the type of men who might have these affairs, men who are used to picking up women in bars for quickies, or something: would one of those men really announce his real name right away? Right there in the bar? I mean, seems like he'd want to avoid saying his full name for a while, considering what he was up to.

I don't think I ever saw a picture of the Victor/Victoria guy who claimed he went home with Scott. Er... I don't think I WANTED to see a pic of him! (And at present, seeing Michael Jackson's queer-guy-off-the-deep-end face on the screen every hour is quite enough, lol!)


60 posted on 01/22/2004 9:14:13 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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