[aruanan]

Do you see it now?

I've seen it from the beginning, but--the vast amount of text you've cut and pasted notwithstanding--it's clear that you still have not. You have posted nothing that contradicts or even weakens my earlier observation that there was nothing in the texts you had earlier cited that supported your conclusion that the cloth that was wrapped around the head necessarily had to be underneath the single piece of cloth that was the shroud.

Furthermore, in your attempt to compare the burial of Jesus with that of Lazarus, you appear to have overlooked the most fundamental difference: the burial of Lazarus was done all in good time of a beloved brother. The burial of Jesus, and the process of getting his body prepped for burial, was a hasty and uncompleted affair, specifically mentioned as such, and done to beat the sundown and appearance of the second star that would mark the beginning of Sabbath.

[Swordmaker]

Thank you aruanan. Check my reply 80 to RaceBannon.

[RaceBannon]

But you ignore the use of the kerchief entirely.

You and Swordswallower keep denying the most basic point! That this kerchief went around the face entirely, yet too many people on here tried to dismiss it by saying it was just a strap of sorts, something to tie up the chin,

then,

when I show you it is NOT a chin strap,

but a FULL FACE wrap,

you then change tactics to explain away what I just proved to you was right AGAIN!

Also, if this was wrapped around either theoutside or inside of the burial cloth, it would STILL have wrapped the BEARD down tight to the face, and there would be no image of a full flowing beard!

This is a fairy tale, you dont know who it is, yet it has become a statement of faith, it is now considerd a relic, based only on superstition, and no fact at all as to who this image is!

That is blasphemy.