[Swordmaker]

Taken from Barrie Schwortz's Shroud of Turin site. This . . . "is a technical paper by Ray Rogers, Fellow of the University of California, Los Alamos National Laboratory, and former STURP team member . . . The paper, titled, "Pyrolysis/Mass Spectrometry Applied to the Shroud of Turin." In it, Ray explains how Pyrolysis/Mass Spectrometry was used to detect impurities on samples of the Shroud of Turin. Interestingly, a gum coating was found on the fibers from the Raes Sample, a section cut from the Shroud in 1973 from an area directly adjoining the 1988 c14 sample. However, this gum coating was not found on any fibers from anywhere else on the Shroud. The tests provided quantitative evidence that the Raes sample and consequently, the adjoining 1988 c14 sample, were both anomalous and different from the rest of the Shroud. This paper provides the quantitative data from those tests and casts further doubt on the validity of the 1988 c14 dating of the Shroud." - Barrie Schwotrz.

This report shows not only that the linen in C-14 Sampled Area is not only spectographically DIFFERENT than the linen in the rest of the shroud, it also shows a gum coating not found on other threads of the shroud.

In addition, it adds to the mountain of evidence proving that there are no pigments found on the shroud.

[Swordmaker]

Pinging the Shroud list...

Barrie Schwortz has updated his Shroud Web Site. This is one of the latest scientific papers on the Shroud and has some important information on the C-14 test sample area.

If any one wishes to be included (or excluded) on the Shroud Ping list, please Freepmail me. Swordmaker

[RaceBannon]

I do not believe the Shroud is genuine.

The Bible accounts of burial techniques disprove the image.

(John 11:43 KJV) And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

(John 11:44 KJV) And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.



Lazarus had a napkin around his head. If the shroud was around him, also, there would still be a napkin around his head.

So did Jesus.

(John 20:6 KJV) Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,

(John 20:7 KJV) And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

(John 20:8 KJV) Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

To believe that the entire shroud had an image of Christ onit, this image had to be created also through this napkin.

IF this is His image, then it all would be a miracle. But, to not only go through the napkin, and onto the shroud, BUT HAVE NO NAPKIN which would have been DIRECTLY attached to His face, tells me this is a hoax.

[bigcat00]

Thanks for an interesting post.

A layman's question....i.e., a dumb question, perhaps, but nonetheless...Would it be possible to retrieve human DNA from the Shroud? And could it be determined where the DNA originated? I realize the Shroud has probably had many hands upon it over the centuries, but what about one of the potions with the image?

[bigcat00]

Thanks for an interesting post.

A layman's question....i.e., a dumb question, perhaps, but nonetheless...Would it be possible to retrieve human DNA from the Shroud? And could it be determined where the DNA originated? I realize the Shroud has probably had many hands upon it over the centuries, but what about one of the portions with the image?

[pgkdan]

BUMP FOR LATER

[Johnny_Cipher]

If they keep taking pieces of the Shroud for destructive testing, they're going to have to start referring to it as the Washrag of Turin before long.

[johnb838]

bfl

[Catholicguy]

http://www.crc-internet.org/shroud.htm

[Graymatter]

Another puzzlement: in the negative, where the image is realistic, his hair is white. Or blond as a Viking's! What's up with that?
(The blood stains are white in the negative because they are not part of the image; but the hair is image.)

[RightOnline]

For those who missed it the first time around........read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38765319358d.htm