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All Quiet on the Northern Front, But a General (Clark) Alarm Spreads Through the State (NH)
Village Voice ^ | January 19th, 2004 2:00 PM | James Ridgeway

Posted on 01/20/2004 11:51:47 AM PST by dead

NASHUA, NEW HAMPSHIRE—As the Democratic candidates began landing here last week, this state braced for a surge of whirlwind politics before the primary. But during the recent spate of bitter cold, this northern front lay relatively quiet as events played out in Iowa. Dennis Kucinich, though, stoked some fire by telling teenagers at a high school in Penacook that some of the Pentagon's budget should go to pay for universal free public education through college. He studiously avoided the topic of abortion; he once was against it. Joe Lieberman, at a town meeting in Concord, promised to reverse Bush's partial ban on stem cell research and wants to set up a center to search for the cure for various diseases.

Howard Dean broke off from Iowa for one day of stumping through the southern part of the state, basking in the warmth of his supporters, arguing for his own form of Yankee fiscal conservatism and citing his admiration of Harry Truman. He gently chided Wesley Clark, increasingly portrayed as a serious rival, but pretty much ignored John Edwards, another thought by some to be moving up. If, as the press reports, Dean is reeling from opposition attacks, you'd never know it to see the man in action here.

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In the flesh, Clark presents a puzzle. Portrayed as a charismatic figure, he strikes one as a little wacky. (One of his political opponents likened him to a Stepford Wife.) Not that this means anything to the professional politicians who want people to think he is Clinton's choice. If you vote for Clark you're voting for Bill, whom the general consults just about every week on matters of strategy and issues. His staff comes straight out of Clinton's political camp.

But in a general election, the Clinton connection might not be such a hot idea. The conservative base hates the Clintons, and if there is one thing that will get that bloc out to vote (independents are allowed to vote in either party's primaries), it is to meddle behind the scenes in the Democrats' presidential campaign. Furthermore, liberal voters grow furious at the thought of Bill and Hillary trying to dislodge Dean.

Under sometimes persistent questioning by a friendly crowd at a town hall meeting in a high school auditorium in Hudson, a suburban town just outside Nashua, in the populous southern tier of the state, Clark was sometimes startling and other times just confusing. He said such things as "I wanted to become an investment banker so I could earn enough money to give money away." He explained his role in helping Acxiom, a company that developed a software program to help hunt for terrorists and was trying to sell it to the Department of Homeland Security, by saying that he introduced company execs to top Bush administration officials. "It turned out that for me to help them, I had to register as a lobbyist," said Clark, who insisted that he thought he was doing the right thing. "We were trying to keep America safe—that's what lobbyists mostly do."

To demonstrate just how competent he was in civil life, the general told of the obstacles to be overcome in running the huge Los Angeles school district, administering thousands of teachers and tens of thousands of students. It sounded like one hell of a tough job. But Clark never actually held this job, he was just offered the job. He did not take it.

"I was just wondering what you've done for veterans since you were relieved of your command," asked one woman questioner. "Oh . . ." replied Clark, "well, it's an interesting question. First place, I actually wasn't relieved of my command. I did leave three months early as the result of a policy quarrel with the Pentagon. And I stood up to help a million and a half Albanians be saved from ethnic cleansing. And there were some boys in the Pentagon who didn't like that much, especially the ones who had cut deals with the Republican-led Congress. And so I saved a million and a half people—they got even. I think it was a good trade."

Clark's ties to the military inform his approach to politics. When it comes to military matters, he puts the emphasis on NATO—more than the UN. Clark wants to set up a joint anti- terrorism task force of countries in and out of NATO to hunt for bin Laden and other terrorists, along with giving more aid to Pakistan.

Then there's the question of whether Clark is a Democrat or a Republican. Dean's take: "I think Clark's a good guy, but I truly believe he's a Republican. . . . Harry Truman once said that if you run a Republican against a Republican, a Republican is going to win every time. I don't mean offense to General Clark—he's a good guy. And I don't mind that he voted for Nixon and Reagan—that was a long time ago."

The general was further chided by New Hampshire ex-governor Jeanne Shaheen, chairwoman of Kerry's campaign, for "his votes" for Nixon, Reagan, and Bush, but then Shaheen herself voted for Nixon. Clark shrugs it all off. "It sure seems like a conversion, doesn't it?" he told one Nashua woman. "Actually, I wasn't a Republican a year ago. I was never a Republican." He told his Hudson town meeting: "When I got out of the military, I was courted by both parties." But he added, "There is only one party in America for me. . . . I live the values of the Democratic Party."

It's hard to know these days what those values are, but in Clark's case they appear to be steeped in military life. Those values seem to be telling him that as a civilian, he needs to follow a moderate, pragmatic course, set most likely by advisers. Political insiders could care less about these inconsistencies. They see the possibility of painting Clark as a strong, patriotic figure with a wealth of firsthand military experience to run the war on terror and hunt down Al Qaeda—the job Bush couldn't handle. Most of all it's the ties with Clinton that count.

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John Edwards remains pretty much of a sleeper. He managed to squeeze in a brief trip to Exeter early last week for a town meeting, then dashed back to Iowa. In the Exeter town hall, 300 townspeople huddled in their overcoats, sitting in a circle against a background of what was meant to look like ye olde small town New England meeting. They all had done this before, probably many times, and knew by heart their parts as bit actors in what Edwards hoped would be a photo op in a folksy setting made for a TV ad. The North Carolina senator, looking as smooth and cute as the president of a glee club, told them how he had risen from the working class to become the politician who faced off against Jesse Helms's powerful machine and won. The audience politely applauded. He went on to say it was a "moral imperative" to solve the problem of two Americas—one rich and one poor. He is against war profiteering in Iraq. But not against the war.

Edwards couldn't keep from descending into the muck of good ol' boy Southern politics. He told how he could win the South: "They'll say, 'Well, you know, George Bush is so strong in the South, he's so popular in the South' . . . Again, let me go back to simple language: The South is not George Bush's backyard, it is my backyard!"

The audience listened patiently but remained poker-faced. Absolutely not one clue as to what they were thinking. Again, they applauded politely, without much enthusiasm, while the senator's staff whooped and hollered, trying to give the gathering the look of a mad and crazy political rally. And sure enough, within an hour or two, the Edwards PR machine was citing the Exeter town hall meeting as yet another indication of the senator's gathering strength.

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Additional reporting: Ashley Glacel and Alicia Ng


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2004; clark; nh; stepfordwife; troll; villagevoice; wacokid; weasleyclark; wesleyclark
This is one of three articles in today’s Village Voice taking shots at Clark. As liberal as that paper is, they were never big fans of the Clintons.

I mean, they like them a lot more than they like any conservative or right-leaning moderate who ever drew breath, but that’s not saying much.

All in all, this was a pretty boring report, but the following paragraph cracked me up:

To demonstrate just how competent he was in civil life, the general told of the obstacles to be overcome in running the huge Los Angeles school district, administering thousands of teachers and tens of thousands of students. It sounded like one hell of a tough job. But Clark never actually held this job, he was just offered the job. He did not take it.

Clark’s kookier than Dean, and that’s saying something.

1 posted on 01/20/2004 11:51:49 AM PST by dead
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To: dead
>>>>>Clark wants to set up a joint anti- terrorism task force of countries in and out of NATO to hunt for bin Laden and other terrorists<<<<

Why not, Clark is well-connected with terrorists

2 posted on 01/20/2004 11:59:03 AM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: dead
Why was Clark fired...months after the Kosovo action.

Clinton knows, Bush knows, Edwards knows (Gen. Shelton is his advisor.)

3 posted on 01/20/2004 12:00:40 PM PST by Shermy
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To: DTA
>>>>the job Bush couldn't handle<<<

Weasly Clark handdles terrorists well, with both hands.

4 posted on 01/20/2004 12:01:03 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
Do you know who all the people are in that picture? I know they're KLA, but I don't know any names.
5 posted on 01/20/2004 12:12:46 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Shermy
It might have been his attempt to start a war with the Russians over a worthless airport.

Don't think Rove isn't banking that little bit of trivia for down the road. Most braindead Americans know nothing about that incident.

6 posted on 01/20/2004 12:15:04 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Do you know who all the people are in that picture?

WESLEY CLARK BONDS WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS

Hashim Thaci, UCK [KLA] leader; Bernard Kouchner UN Administrator of Kosovo
Gen. Sir Mike Jackson KFOR Commander, Agim Ceku, commander of UCK [KLA]
Gen. Wesley Clarck, NATO commander, October 1999

7 posted on 01/20/2004 12:38:30 PM PST by henbane
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To: dead
>>>>>>Do you know who all the people are in that picture? I know they're KLA, but I don't know any names<<<<<<<

(from the L to the Right)

Hashim Thaqi - the head of KLA
Bernard Couchner
Gen. Mike Jackson
Agim Cheku - KLA -
Wes Clark

U.S. envoy Richard Gelbard is on record saying "I know terrorist when I see one. KLA are terrorists."

8 posted on 01/20/2004 12:39:30 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: dead
>>>>>>Do you know who all the people are in that picture? I know they're KLA, but I don't know any names<<<<<<<

(from the L to the Right)

Hashim Thaqi - the head of KLA
Bernard Couchner
Gen. Mike Jackson
Agim Cheku - KLA -
Wes Clark

U.S. envoy Richard Gelbard is on record saying "I know terrorist when I see one. KLA are terrorists."

9 posted on 01/20/2004 12:39:33 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: dead
Portrayed as a charismatic figure, he strikes one as a little wacky.

A little wacky?!

10 posted on 01/20/2004 12:40:20 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: henbane; DTA
Thanks! That's a keeper.
11 posted on 01/20/2004 12:41:38 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
And there were some boys in the Pentagon who didn't like that much, especially the ones who had cut deals with the Republican-led Congress.

Huh? Secretary Cohen was disliked by the pubbies for selling out to Clinton and Shelton is a Democrat with aspirations for office.

Clark just makes it up as he goes. No wonder Clinton likes him.

12 posted on 01/20/2004 12:47:29 PM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: dead
WESLEY CLARK EXCHANGES HATS WITH CONVICTED BOSNIAN WAR CRIMINAL

On August 27, 1994, Clark, then director of strategy, plans and policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went to Banja Luka - and met with Ratko Mladic, the bloodstained military leader of the Bosnian Serbs. (My note: everybody apparently forgets that before Serbia's the aggression in Bosnia the same Ratko Mladic was military commander of the Serbian army ("Yugoslav Peoples Army") in Croatia and conducted large scale massacres of Croatian civilians there, especially in the ethnically "cleansed of Croatian population "Krajina", another Serb-proclaimed "republic"). The State Department had advised against the meeting, on account of Mladic's well-documented war crimes in Gorazde, Srebrenica and Sarajevo. Still, Clark and Mladic had a jolly time. Mladic gave Clark some plum brandy and a pistol with a Cyrillic inscription, and the two merrily swapped military hats. What do you do with a man with that kind of moral cluelessness? Promote him.

 


13 posted on 01/20/2004 12:50:20 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Incorrigible
How would you like to have Karl Rove's job if Clark gets the nomination?

Talk about having ammo to demoralize the base! Between his terrorists links, his (foolishly denied) support for invading Iraq, and his unflinching praise for the diplomacy of Bush and Powell, this guy's going to be the first candidate to star in a negative campaign about himself.

14 posted on 01/20/2004 1:05:18 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
bump
15 posted on 01/20/2004 1:17:37 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: dead
Clark acts like he single-handedly won the "Great" Kosovo War! And the Dims say Bush is arrogant?
16 posted on 01/20/2004 4:34:58 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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