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To: Jorge
I think Kerry is a very weak debater

Not in a partisan context. If you had watched the Kerry-Weld debates for the Senate, you would know that Kerry is a very strong debater indeed. The issue is whether Kerry can sell class warfare light and his war record to cut into the Bush zones. At this juncture, Kerry is clearly Bush's strongest opponent. I just don't yet believe in Edwards as having the necessary elements.

1,735 posted on 01/19/2004 7:01:51 PM PST by Torie
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What the hell?
1,738 posted on 01/19/2004 7:02:34 PM PST by TomServo ("Why does the most evil man in the world live in a Stuckeys?")
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To: Torie
Give me either.

People just don't vote for Senators over executive branch guys.

Has a sitting President ever lost to a Senator?

I'm not sure, but I don't think it has ever happened.

I'm not sure that a sitting Senator without prior experience as a Governor has ever won the White House, period.

Can you think of a counter example?

1,781 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: Torie
If you had watched the Kerry-Weld debates for the Senate, you would know that Kerry is a very strong debater indeed.

I guess it depends on who the opponent is and how much people are paying attention.

Kerry can project a strong and self-assured facade in debates but his arguments don't hold up under the sort of close examination we can expect during a campaign for the White House.

This man is so full of hot air, contradictions and flimsy arguments I predict Bush will kick his sorry butt in debates.

1,877 posted on 01/19/2004 7:21:30 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Torie
At this juncture, Kerry is clearly Bush's strongest opponent. I just don't yet believe in Edwards as having the necessary elements.

You think so. I think he's the easiest based on geography, personality, being a insider Washington guy, and temperment(not like Dean's, but has one). As for his war record, he also turned his back on the country while our guys were still there.

Clark's tough since he's unpredictable. Gep's gone, but he would have been tough. Dean still can be scary, although he may have beaten himself for being a jackass. Edwards I think would have been very tough....in 2008 or 2012.

1,929 posted on 01/19/2004 7:29:11 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("And it's worth the sweat, and it's worth the pain, cause the chance may never come again" -)
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