Posted on 01/19/2004 3:21:18 PM PST by calvin sun
FYI it's being carried live on Cspan. They said coverage starts at 7 pm ET, with the actual caucus at 7:30 pm ET.
I agree. Over optimism runs rampant at FR. The Bush people keep insisting it's going to be close, so it appears they've got that part right at least. I'm not confident they know how to run the right kind of campaign though. I think Bush may try to run another "Mr. Nice Guy" passive campaign and not try to couterpunch.
He's running on the Clinton 92 campaign template. Keeps using the word "change".
Were they yelling Dean, Dean, Dean.....or Done, Done, Done? 2,008 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:35 PM EST by Consort [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: GulliverSwift Dean has gone mental...again. 2,009 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:37 PM EST by scarface367 (If you read this tagline, I'll have to kill you) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2003 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Carolinamom Dean is having a seizure!!! LOL!!! 2,010 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:37 PM EST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2006 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Howlin OMG...he's mad. This is gonna get GOOD. 2,011 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:38 PM EST by Howlin [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1998 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: BCrago66 Good grief.........someone slipped Dean the wrong drug. 2,012 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:42 PM EST by Southflanknorthpawsis [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2000 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Miss Marple OMG!!! He's lost it!!!! 2,013 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:43 PM EST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1991 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Fledermaus Did Edwards just say we have "two education systems - one for the affluent"...uh, like Democrats that put their kids into private schools John? Where are your kids going to school John? I believe his daughter is attending Princton OMG .. Dean Is Turning RED IN THE FACE ... WOW!! 2,014 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:46 PM EST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1977 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Howlin He is now spouting the same liberal drival I heard back in the 70's. I for the life of me do not understand how they can get away with it. Johnson passed the biggest war on poverty legislation in history, they held the House and Senate for decades, and we are in the same position now. The people who vote for these idiots are either insane, stupid, or receiving the dole. 2,015 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:46 PM EST by woodyinscc [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1951 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Pukin Dog He's like a cult leader, like Jim Jones. 2,016 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:47 PM EST by oceanview [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1993 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: BCrago66 Dean doing his best WWE impersonation. 2,017 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:47 PM EST by GulliverSwift (The problem with Dean isn't just that he's insane, it's also that he's a complete liar.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2000 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: BCrago66 Oh God! He's immitating Ted Kennedy! 2,018 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:52 PM EST by Poser [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2000 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Howlin Thanks for that sfgate link. FUNNY! ;-D Dean going INSANE on Fox News right now! Yikes... 2,019 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:56 PM EST by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1970 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: nhoward14 yes, Edwards has the arousal gap filled... 2,020 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:58 PM EST by Keith (IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2004 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Torie Any one see Deaniac on fox now! 2,021 posted on 01/19/2004 10:39:59 PM EST by mylife [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2007 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: smith288 Amazing. Total implosion. 2,022 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:00 PM EST by Torie [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2010 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Miss Marple GO DEAN GO 2,023 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:03 PM EST by deport [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1991 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: All Jeebus, Dean's going to give himself a heart attack. This guy is completely insane. 2,024 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:04 PM EST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: deport Howard Dean is now in complete meltdown mode. Maybe its a panic attack. 2,025 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:08 PM EST by Don'tMessWithTexas [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1986 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Carolinamom Adolf Dean whipping his supporters into a frenzy. 2,026 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:08 PM EST by Miss Marple [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2006 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: OldFriend Yeahhhhhahh! Anyone hear that demended Dean wail?!? The man is losing it. 2,027 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:10 PM EST by BCrago66 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2005 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Jorge Kerry will NOT get a free pass. Well, if he is the nominee, I say that Kerry will get a "blind eye" if not a "free pass" from the popular big media, where the majority, if they hear any news at all, still turn (barely, for sure). 2,028 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:15 PM EST by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1988 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Pukin Dog This guy is completely out of his freaking mind! 2,029 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:15 PM EST by Mr. Mojo [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2013 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Pukin Dog This idiot Dean and his idiot supporters actually think they WON!!!!!UnFReepinbelieveable! Nam Vet 2,030 posted on 01/19/2004 10:40:15 PM EST by Nam Vet (It's a small world. So you gotta use your elbows a lot.) 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That was the crawler that ABC had scrawling across the screen - I waited until that portion came across before I grabbed a frame as it had more relevancy than the other 'news' they had crawling across - I think it was one of the campaign 'messages' (since Kerry and Dean et have all basically said "we're going to Washington to take 'our' country back!") ...
Snow flakes, Kelloggs Frosted Flakes, txflake ... it is just all good!
Edwards got elected because Lauch Faircloth didn't run a good re-election campaign, and it was 1998, a bad year for Republicans. As for liberal northerners politicking down here...let's just say that if Clinton (either one) or Kennedy or any of that crowd had publicly campaigned for Dem. Mike Easley in 2000, he more than likely wouldn't be governor today. They might come down for private fundraisers, but they keep it real quiet and off the front page of the (very cooperative) newspaper, and scurry back north as fast as possible. Or they air ads, or make taped telephone messages in highly selective and targeted markets to fire up their base. But running ads on regional TV and radio, in front of God and everybody? It's the kiss of death. In 2002, Erskine Bowles stayed as far away from his old boss Bill Clinton as possible (in public). In 1998, Jim Hunt didn't get re-elected to his 4th term as governor by doing something so stupid as being seen on TV rubbing shoulders with the Clintons. He knew which side his bread was buttered on; he knew the % by which Clinton lost NC twice.
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