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IA caucus - Kerry 38% (winner), Edwards 32%, Dean 18% (97% reporting) (Gephardt drops out)
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Posted on 01/19/2004 3:21:18 PM PST by calvin sun

FYI it's being carried live on Cspan. They said coverage starts at 7 pm ET, with the actual caucus at 7:30 pm ET.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; alllosers; caucus; dean; drjudithsteinberg; edwardswatch; election; howarddean; iowa; judithsteinberg; steinberg
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To: George W. Bush
But I am very surprised that Dean didn't break 25%

Not enough liberal university towns in Iowa.

1,581 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:09 PM PST by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: mylife
"Just found that the Dummies are monitoring this thread and claiming we are behind the voter fraud and disruption!!"

I've got a message for the DUmmies...

All your base are belong to us!

1,582 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:13 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Here's the story that was posted yesterday.

Kerry Meets Soldier He Saved in Vietnam (Didn't know he was a Vietnam Vet Alert)
NY Times ^ | 1-18-04 | DAVID M. HALBFINGER

Posted on 01/18/2004 4:25:29 PM EST by Indy Pendance

DES MOINES, Jan. 17 — It is March 13, 1969, and Lt. John Kerry, 25, a Silver Star winner and holder of two Purple Hearts, is piloting his Navy boat up the treacherous Bay Hap River in Vietnam, a day after escaping a Vietcong ambush.

Suddenly, a mine blast rocks the boat and enemy fire explodes from both banks. Lieutenant Kerry is thrown into the bulkhead, bashing his head and arm. And then, from the fantail, comes a cry, "Man overboard!" A Special Forces officer — a tall, sharp-featured, redheaded lieutenant Mr. Kerry would remember only as Rassmann — is 200 yards aft, surfacing and diving for his life as snipers rake the river.

In the chaos, Mr. Kerry turns the boat on a dime, races forward, pulls the soldier into the bow and steers to safety. As a result, he wins the Bronze Star with a combat "V" for valor and his third Purple Heart: a ticket home from Vietnam for good.

He never sees Rassmann again.

Until Saturday, Jan. 17, 2004, a day after Jim Rassmann, 56, a retired Los Angeles sheriff's deputy and orchid lover, awoke in Florence, Ore., and decided to contact Senator John Kerry's campaign.

So Mr. Rassmann flew to Iowa. "I'm a news junkie," he said at a news conference here. "I've followed John's career since '84. I wrote him a letter then and invited him to dinner if he ever came to L.A. Never heard back."

"I'm a Volvo Republican, a practical idealist," Mr. Rassmann continued. "He stands for things I'd like to stand for. And he's an honest man. With a good healthy ego, but not an ego that knows no bounds."

En route from Davenport, Mr. Kerry was staggered to learn by phone of Mr. Rassmann's emergence. "I'm amazed," he said in a raspy, halting voice. "It's stunning. It's amazing to have a guy from 35 years ago just appear."

He said, "You know, I never thought I'd ever see the guy again."

About 4:30 p.m., he did: Mr. Rassmann, not so tall, not so sharp-featured now, his not-so-red hair thinning on top, embraced Mr. Kerry. His broad, beaming face quickly melted into sobs. Mr. Kerry squeezed it in both hands.

Collecting himself, Mr. Rassmann spoke up. "John didn't have to, but he came to the front under fire," he said. "The bow, pardon me, sir. I always had a problem with Navy terminology. And pulled me over. Had he not, there's no question in my mind that I probably would've fallen back into the river. He could've been shot and killed at any time, and so could I. So I figure I probably owe this man my life."

Mr. Kerry listened, then told a mob of television cameras and political reporters, "This is a brave, unbelievably patriotic American."

To which Mr. Rassmann added an endorsement of his own: "He's going to get my vote."

1,583 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:13 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: max_rpf
Gephardt will probably serve out his term but that's it. He's done.

If he's going to St. Louis, he's dropping out. Wonder who he will support.

1,584 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:20 PM PST by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: StarFan; abner; Howlin
Wish I had four TV's in one room to catch it all. Dean was on foxnews earlier and now on MSNBC saying if anyone told him a year ago he would finish third in Iowa he would have been thrilled. The guy can really fling it. Did you know Greta's hubby is campaigning for Kerry?

I know... I'm getting a lot of exercise, running between rooms (which I need anyway!). I did know about Greta's hubby and Kerry... she said on the air the other night that "she had to disclose that fact".

So the big question now: Is the CSPAN camera gonna follow the Dubuque Caucus crowd on to "Happy's Place"?

1,585 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:22 PM PST by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: ambrose
The "he's finished" instant punditry is often wrong.

The only one that I think is really done at this point is Gephardt. He put the entire wad on Iowa, and lost his shirt. And now, according to Fox, he's changed his plans and will be flying back to Missouri. I expect he'll annouce he's quitting before week's end.

1,586 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:23 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Timeout
As for Gephardt, I've said it a hundred times, no one trusts a man without eyebrows...
1,587 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:34 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (How could you believe me when I told you that I love you when you know I've been a liar all my life?)
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To: Wphile
I think it would be great if DEAN ran as a 3rd party candidate! Wouldn't that be a hoot?

What happens to all the money Dean has raise of he doesn't do well?

1,588 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: tapatio
LOL
1,589 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:47 PM PST by mylife
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To: Keith in Iowa
Gephart won't leave the House, just the campaign trail.

He should at least get some credit for taking down Dean with those tough ads he's run in the last week. I guess he scored one for the establishment!
1,590 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:47 PM PST by Timeout ("Earn this. Earn it."....)
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To: calvin sun
Hello President Ketchup!
1,591 posted on 01/19/2004 6:47:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Brandon
What happens to Hillary if Ketchup/Breck wins?? I'm scaring myself.
1,592 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:00 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Howlin
Carl Cameron reporting that Gephardt is returning to St. Louis tomorrow, and that all indications from his campaign is that he is ENDING HIS LONG POLITICAL CAREER!! HOT DOG! I told you I love election years.

No, internation minimun wage for you Dickie.

1,593 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:18 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Brandon
The Dems haven't won with a northern liberal since 1960.

Well WON may be a little strong in reference to that election mess.

1,594 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:24 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: Revolting cat!
FRANCE WINS IOWA!
1,595 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:31 PM PST by ChadGore (George W. Bush has done more to earn my vote than any other American alive today.)
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To: The Shrew
Yep......way too convenient.
1,596 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:40 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: cynwoody
Let's see ... Left to right, John F-up Kerry, Tom Harkin, Mrs. Harkin, Comrade Danny Ortega? Do you have the date?

It would be in 1985

1,597 posted on 01/19/2004 6:48:57 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: calvin sun
Better start learning how to say "ketchup" in French!
1,598 posted on 01/19/2004 6:49:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: gitmo
Dean is running ads in NH as an independent MODERATE governor of a neighbor state according to estrich.
1,599 posted on 01/19/2004 6:49:16 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: cynwoody
You mean like this one?

Let's go to the sink for a few minutes?

1,600 posted on 01/19/2004 6:49:21 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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