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CLINTON'S TRIUMPH
New York Post Online ^ | January 19, 2004 | RALPH PETERS

Posted on 01/19/2004 9:36:46 AM PST by Kaslin

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:19:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I NEVER thought I'd give Bill Clinton a standing ovation. But last week in Qatar I did just that. Our former president gave the most perfectly pitched, precisely targeted speech I've ever heard to a hall filled with Muslim intellectuals and officials. And they listened.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabworld; barfalert; clinton; liar; praise; qatar; ralphpeters; snakeoilsalesman; supernatural; x42
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To: Kaslin
It was the famous Clinton magic. It failed us in the White House, but may have found its proper stage in the world beyond our shores.

I agree. If we can just keep Clinton offshore, it will be better for the U.S.

The farther the better.

21 posted on 01/19/2004 9:53:43 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Kaslin
Why does Clinton back Clark for Prez?

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Democrats are so delirious about finding a general who is a pacifist scaredy-cat that no one seems to have bothered to investigate whether Wesley Clark is sane. ... Clark recently said that the 'two greatest lies that have been told in the last three years' are: 'You couldn't have prevented 9-11 and there's another one that's bound to happen.' If he were president, Clark says, there would be no more terrorist attacks. ... Democrats...are so happy to have a pacifist in uniform, they ignore his Norman Bates moments. ... Under Clark's command, the U.S. bombed the Chinese Embassy by mistake, killing three Chinese journalists. Other NATO air strikes under Clark mistakenly damaged the Swiss, Spanish, Swedish, Norwegian and Hungarian ambassadors' residences. Despite the absence of ground troops, Yugoslavia took three American POWs, whose release was eventually brokered by Jesse Jackson. America was standing tall. ... Clark's forces bombed a civilian convoy by mistake, killing more than 70 ethnic Albanians, and then Clark openly lied about it to the press. First he denied NATO had done it, and when forced to retract that, Clark pinned the blame on an innocent U.S. pilot. ... Eventually, even a model of probity like Bill Clinton was shocked by Clark's mendacity and fired him. ... At the end of major combat operations led by NATO Supreme Allied Commander Gen. Wesley Clark, arch-villain Slobodan Milosevic was still in power. ... Today, almost a decade and $15 billion later, U.S. troops are still bogged down in the Balkans. No quagmire there! ... That's the Democrats' idea of a general." --Ann Coulter



22 posted on 01/19/2004 9:56:33 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Kaslin
One question for Ralph Peters: Does he think that the Toon would have sounded the same message if he thought a different message would have helped Hillary's chances for the White House? After eight years of these two we've learned one thing about them: they do nothing without the ulterior motive of entrenching their own power. One speech does not change that!
23 posted on 01/19/2004 9:56:41 AM PST by Scott Mahrle
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To: Kaslin
Bush to Clinton.You go over there and Bash the usa and the President and We will not allow your plane to land and your passport will be void "getit".
24 posted on 01/19/2004 9:56:59 AM PST by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: Kaslin
Clinton was always a very effective speaker...

...it just depends on the intent of the script writer.
25 posted on 01/19/2004 9:59:42 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Jimmah Cartah was the worst president of the United States. Bill Clinton was the worst man to have become president of the US.
26 posted on 01/19/2004 10:01:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eala
Yes, recently, but it's well known that Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua stepped down after he was voted out of office because Jimmy Carter called him and said he really needed to let democracy work. This was something that the Reagan/Bush team wasn't able to do (given the legacy of U.S.-Nicaragua relations in the 1980s), but Ortega is on record as having followed Carter's advice because he respected him...and thus scoring another one in the win column for the U.S. in the forward march of democracy and security. This is the kind of thing that people refer to when they speak of Carter as a better ex=president than sitting president.
27 posted on 01/19/2004 10:02:00 AM PST by Herodotus
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To: Kaslin
As they say.. "Blow in their ear and they'll follow you anywhere". Clinton must be watched (both of them).. maybe some kind of new tactic.. With the pubbies goin left, Clinton goes RIGHT... The leopard don't change his spots.. EVER

28 posted on 01/19/2004 10:02:01 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: pasquale
I heard Tony Snow doing his regular interview on the local sports station in San Francisco (the morning host is more conservative than the other hosts), and he mentioned this speech. I think that Tony was there. He also mentioned that it was a surprisingly good speech... and he did sound surprised!
29 posted on 01/19/2004 10:02:26 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: dead
Another take:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1057172/posts
30 posted on 01/19/2004 10:04:28 AM PST by Howlin
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To: twigs
"He is seeing what Pres. Bush is doing well and is piggy-backing onto it. "Me to -- me to ...I would have done that!" It's no different than the way he "led" by following polls when he was president."

Very observant of you...best comment I've read on this article.
31 posted on 01/19/2004 10:04:31 AM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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To: dead
And nother take:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056685/posts
32 posted on 01/19/2004 10:05:17 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Triple Word Score
Interesting take about being away from Hillary and it's probably true.
I guess it depends on where one considers where the center is, but moving to the center of the left is still left.
Course, today's center is yesterday's far left.

I just wonder what impact, if any, x42i can have on the rest of the world ?
33 posted on 01/19/2004 10:06:53 AM PST by stylin19a (Is it vietnam yet ?)
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To: Kaslin
Asked by an eager-to-Bush-bash delegate if he, Bill Clinton, would have behaved differently after 9/11, our former president said he would have followed an identical course, pursuing our enemies into Afghanistan and beyond.

Yeah, sure.

Sorry, Ralph. You are mistaking sweet, swelling words for actions. He had his chance to do something about it and completely failed...

Clinton is emerging as a super-charged Jimmy Carter - a far better ex-president than president.

Wow! Talk about damning with faint praise...

Perhaps we need a division of labor, a good-cop, bad-cop approach, in American foreign policy.

In this case, clinton would easily qualify for the corrupt cop...

The administration shouldn't be too proud to ask for the help it needs from Clinton

Instead, it would be much better if this administration weren't too timid to prosecute him for his many crimes...

It was the famous Clinton magic.

He's magic all right, Ralph. He certainly pulled the wool over your eyes with his sleight-of-hand tricks.

34 posted on 01/19/2004 10:07:16 AM PST by Gritty ("In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Look to his character"-Noah Webster)
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To: AnAmericanMother
The conclusion I reached is similar, but it is more along the line that something will be revealed or happen that will prove Bush's success in our foreign policy and Clinton has to hurry and get on the right side of the issue.
35 posted on 01/19/2004 10:08:58 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Kaslin
Hmmmmmm...this is not the Clinton we have all come to know and despise....he's either back on drugs or he's up to something...my guess is he's up to something.
36 posted on 01/19/2004 10:10:06 AM PST by mystery-ak (YooHoo, Mr. Rumsfeld....I need a word with you.)
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To: Kaslin
he stated that any disagreements he might have would be most appropriately expressed at home in the U.S., not before a foreign audience.

This is a sign of the End Times...

37 posted on 01/19/2004 10:17:05 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: Texas_Dawg
Jimmy Carter has been 1,000x worse and more damaging to the U.S. as ex-President than he was as President (which is not to downplay how bad he was as President).

And to think that the blame for the spread of radical Islam can be placed partly on Carter's shoulders! He allowed the leaders of radical Islam in Iran to oust the Shah, which gave birth to the dangers we face today. Under Carter's lack of leadership, we did nothing to address the dangers we saw in an Iran run by radical Islam, and the fire has spread since then.

Iran and the Middle East would likely be much different today if Carter had the fortitude to take care of the situation there and then. Instead, we have a fire burning out of control, and poised to threaten all we hold dear.

38 posted on 01/19/2004 10:21:54 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: Texas_Dawg
Naw, I can't say that... Carter destroyed the US in the Middle East, and damn near lost the frikkin' cold war. DO you realize that had Carter won re-election, the orders had already been given for the Soviet Union to invade West Germany?
39 posted on 01/19/2004 10:35:04 AM PST by dangus
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To: aShepard
I think the picture above my post is very approbiate
40 posted on 01/19/2004 10:35:09 AM PST by Kaslin ("The way to dishonor a fallen soldier is to quit too early." President George W. Bush)
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