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Here's a prediction for you: The winner of the 2004 Presidential Election will be either the DemocRat or the Republican candidate. I say that with near 100% absolute certainty.

Golly, thanks for your wisdom!! Protest voters really thought that they'd get a 3rd party win in 2004!!!! < /sarcasm >

The protest vote isn't about getting a 3rd party elected this election, it's about making a protest. That's why it's called a "protest" vote, see? Ever hear of a rather famous revolution that was started with a single shot "heard round the world"? I can just hear you two back in the day, "Hey, what good's one shot going to do? You're just wasting your lead (vote)."

I can guarantee you two something though. As long as people have your attitude, that we must choose only between 2 major parties, and that a vote anywhere else is just wasted, the dems and the pubs can do ANYTHING they want to us with impunity.

I'm curious. Is there any point at which either of you would finally vote 3rd party?

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It is not a matter of not understanding a protest vote, my friend.

It's a matter of looking honestly at what the 3rd parties have done in the off-years since the last election. None of them have generated any significant growth, presence, or following. They haven't pursued public affairs, they haven't sought in any noticeable way to win hearts and minds.

In other words, they've sat on their hands. They've been NEGLIGENT. And given what they say are crucial times and crucial issues, they've been GROSSLY NEGLIGENT.

These organizations have no credibility as places with which one can register a "protest vote" because they have not used the TALENTS that they have already been given.

Besides, given the overwhelming certainty of a democRat or Republican winning this election, then all these numbers will mean is an opportunity for a liberal media to use it against your one real hope to keep this nation safe and secure.....the re-election of George W. Bush.

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I'm curious. Is there any point at which either of you would finally vote 3rd party?

Nice set up question.

I do vote GOP, but I'm an Independent. I place my vote where the probablity of getting what I want inches towards one. Protest voting would make it rush towards zero.

Also, look at how it is with the American people. 99.999999% of the people either vote Pub, RAT, or not at all. That other 0.000001% of the people vote other ways. So between zero and one, where does the probability lie that a President will be either a Pub or a RAT?

One, that's where.

Lastly, I don't believe in Phyrric victories. Like my late uncle used to say, "You got what you wanted but you lost what you had." That's a fool's errand, IMHO.

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As long as people have your attitude, that we must choose only between 2 major parties, and that a vote anywhere else is just wasted, the dems and the pubs can do ANYTHING they want to us with impunity.

What makes you think that the D's and R's aren't doing what the general electorate wants?

If I recall waaaay back in 2000, and I know that's a loooong way back to remember, the majority of the electorate voted for either Al Gore or Ralph Nader.

What do you thing that shows?