Candidates on the Issues: Immigration

Newsday ^ | Jan. 18, 2004 | AP

[FairOpinion]

Clark:" ensure that undocumented workers have a way to eventually earn their citizenship."

Dean: "We need earned legalization for undocumented immigrants"

Edwards:"...so there is a clear road map to legalization and citizenship for undocumented immigrants"

Gephardt: "My Earned Legalization and Family Unification Act of 2002"...

Kerry: "I support an earned legalization proposal"

Lieberman: "I will create a new one-time earned legalization status...create a work visa program"

[Texasforever]

On that we can agree.

[putupon]

If ever a reply deserved a BUMP, your's does.

God Bless America

[kingu]

I was pretty sure it was Serling, but it had been years since I typed his name, so I had to go look to make sure I wasn't loosing my mind.

I was really sure that it was nitrogen, but I started doubting myself because I wasn't 100 percent sure on Serling. And I was very sure about the fact that the earth is actually more distant from the sun during Northern hemisphere winter, but that it didn't matter, it was the axial tilt that determined the difference.

Was I sure enough to bet on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Oh, yeah. But this is FreeRepublic - we're held to a higher standard. :)

[Fledermaus]

Ooooh, then you read one wrong. The Earth is CLOSER to the sun during the North American winter...and it is about the tilt and the dispersion of the light.

[putupon]

From what I've been told, the illegals will get credit for the time they've been here using bogus & stolen soc. sec. #'s, in addition to the amnesty for being here in the first place.

[putupon]

Oh, and some of my favorite numbers are this, 25-30% of western states prison populations are illegal aliens.

[kingu]

Not to depreciate the sentiment at all, because it is certainly a worthy thought, but it isn't the soldier to whom we can give thanks to. When someone throws himself onto a grenade, it is not because he is a soldier. When someone charges a machine gun nest, it is not because he is a soldier.

It is because he believes in what he is doing, even if that belief is just him being ticked off that a friend died. True believers is what created this country and truly is the blood that nourishes the roots of democracy. And that's one of the reasons why I like FreeRepublic so much - because a larger group of true believers is nearly impossible to find.

We believe in what we say, in what we do. The soldier has contributed much as a job, but it was the true believers who donned the uniforms, who drummed up the support through impassioned speeches, and it is the true believers who most mourn when some hard fought issue is lost.

The American Spirit is alive and well within our soldiers, as well as among some of our writers and politicians. May places like FreeRepublic spread it to everyone.

[Texasforever]

I have seen nothing about that and it sure as heck was not in Bush's proposal. Even if true you are not going to find many of these illegals working long enough to gain benefits.

[kingu]

*laughs* My fingers are not translating my thoughts properly. I thought it was closer but my fingers must have been contemplating something else. January 4th was our closest approach this year. Anyway, this is surely a sign that I need to go to sleep, so I bid everyone a good night.

[Fledermaus]

Goodnight. And watch out for that yellow ball thingy in the sky! It's evil!

[MissouriForBush]

"Is it so they can die on a cold hate-filled battlefield on a sandbar half way around the world for a country who won't even protect its own sovereignty and borders from an invasion every bit as potent to the ruin of America as 9/11/01 was?

I wonder what our boys being shot at right now in Baghdad would think if they knew the nation they are laying their lives on the line for is not worth more than a voting majority on election day."

Your eloquent words deserve repeating. Spot on, as my British friends would say.

[putupon]

Verify, where do you get your numbers from? Mine usually come from talk radio, and I'm pretty confident about the prison population, especially California, and the 9-11 deaths.

The 345bil SS#'s came from Neal Boortz, if I remember correctly.

[Zipporah]

Amen.. and we must always remember our troops and that they put their lives on the line for us and our freedom. I lost a brother-in-law, a soldier who died for us. His memory and the others who died for us must be never forgotten. The Times man of the year deservedly went to the American soldier.

[LizardQueen]

I realized that the state I live in was up for grabs and just couldn't let it go to Gore so I held my nose and voted for GWB

My state (Vermont) always goes overwhelmingly Dem so I feel like I have the ability to do a 3rd party protest vote since even if I vote for Bush he won't take the state anyway.
And it's not like we have a huge pile of electoral votes, either - I think we just have 2 or 3.

If it were a close contest up here I'd vote Bush, but it highly likely that it will be a Dem landslide no matter what I do.

LQ

[MissAmericanPie]

Treason is not a capital offense, life in prison is the top punishment allowed.

Tell me honestly, why are you pretending, or attempting to pretend, that this is all about a thirty minute speech? This is about watching the man tear his hair out for three years in obvious frantic urgency trying to find a way to fulfill some under the table promise he made to Vicente Fox before he was even the governor of Texas.

Were to God that he sought with as much verve and devoted determination the well being, best interest, and future of his fellow countrymen, and to fulfill his oath and promises contained in his oath of office, with the same zeal and single mindedness as he has sought to fulfill his promises to Fox, that Fox admits to, before he ever became governor of Texas. Were to God that he put the best interest of the American people before the best intrest of invading law breakers from an unfriendly nation, and their unfriendly head of state, we would not be having this discussion.

And you would not have to feign that you have been deaf, dumb, and blind, to what has been obvious to the rest of us for three years while the President tried to sneak 245i past shell shocked Americans, not once but twice. And you would not have to look a little foolish attempting to lay all this at the feet of a thirty minute speech.

The celebrations in the streets of Mexico over the 9-11 attack, the hawking of Ben Laden masks and t-shirts pulled out of some vendors closet already manufactured and waiting for the law of supply and demand, along with their condemnation and lack of support for our self defense makes most patriots want a repeat of Sam Houstons victories.

The theft of fourteen billion a year from the American economy, making it an unfriendly nations second largest source of income behind oil, should outrage patriots and men of good character. So why the suprise? The only difference I can see between a coyote smuggling illegals across the border and Bush, is that Bush is free to inflict far more damage.

[azhenfud]

"I read somewhere that illegal immigration across the border is way down, but the media is not reporting it, so they don't have to give credit to Bush for it."

Well dangblasted, it ought to be. We've exported our manufacturing jobs to prime countries Illegaliens hail from in a number that should drop their desire to leave. We can give President Bush's hapless gang credit for some of that too, if you want.

[stopem]

But the bottom line is that BUSH IS PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, now the candidates.

It is BUSH who could pass legislation NOW that should be our major concern not what may or could happen in the future.

What they (the dems) MIGHT do is of no importance right NOW.

The argument is not a valid one right at this moment the only valid argument is that Bush has proposed legislation that could very well pass way before november.

And this just cannot happen.

[billbears]

I read somewhere that illegal immigration across the border is way down, but the media is not reporting it

Well I've read in more than a few places and from my experience in my home state of NC that whoever wrote that was lying

UNDERGROUND EXISTENCE for immigrants working in U.S.

[WOSG]

putupon, I agree with you on immigration. Here's my solution:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1059957/posts

I believe the most productive way to move the ball in a conservative direction on immigration is to work with the 'good guys' on this issue - Rep Lamar Smith, Rep Tancredo, Sen Sessions, Sen Chambliss, and Sen Kyl and others - and support their bills, while making it clear we dont like other proposals like the McCain amnesty or the Kennedy/Hatch DREAM Act, etc.

Everything we want to see happen on immigration is supported by a significant number of Republicans in Congress and opposed vhemently by liberal special interests.

[WOSG]

The people who make our country work:

The soldiers, the taxpayers, the workers, the citizens, the patriots, the entrepreneurs, the builders, the idea-makers, and the teachers.