Candidates on the Issues: Immigration

Newsday ^ | Jan. 18, 2004 | AP

[FairOpinion]

Clark:" ensure that undocumented workers have a way to eventually earn their citizenship."

Dean: "We need earned legalization for undocumented immigrants"

Edwards:"...so there is a clear road map to legalization and citizenship for undocumented immigrants"

Gephardt: "My Earned Legalization and Family Unification Act of 2002"...

Kerry: "I support an earned legalization proposal"

Lieberman: "I will create a new one-time earned legalization status...create a work visa program"

[nopardons]

The key word is " intelligent ". Another is "debate".

Nothing will "aid " this discussion with people who refuse to see reality.

[Texasforever]

Just trying to find out if Bush has committed a capital crime. Now as to me and old Vic we are the bestest of buddies

[FairOpinion]

"I did catch onto Bush fast "

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I see -- I guess you would have preferred Gore.

[Fledermaus]

Today this is true. But don't forget, the GOP was once a "fringe third party" that split from the Whigs because they wanted to fight the Democrats on the abolition of slavery.

And right now we are seeing the Democrats splinter so badly they will either go the way of the Whigs or formulate around the far left and absorb the Greens, Socialists, Commies, etc. if the so-called "centrist" from the DLC can't stop it. Which is Hillary and Bill's plan for 2008. Let the Dems move too far to the left and then ride in again on the white horse.

[Happy2BMe]

".. but reality is what I have said it is."

Nopardons has spoken, it must be so.

Rod Sterling - MOVE OVER!

[Texasforever]

Or does that count?

. Well does it carry the death penalty?

[nopardons]

That'll be a hoot! Go Al baby, GO! LOL

[Fledermaus]

You proclaim Reagan was the last conservative President. He gave REAL amnesty and promised enforcement and didn't deliver.

So I guess he too should be considered a criminal ala GW, eh?

Oh, and Reagan RAISED the Social Security taxes, gas taxes and the alternative minimum tax extension. As well as the Earned Income Tax Credit - one of the biggest scams in the tax code that is so uncontrollable the IRS can't possibly check if everyone on it is eligible.

So don'tbe so quick to judge.

[nopardons]

The GOP is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar removed from the Whigs, but yes, the Dems are in a great deal of troble.

[Fledermaus]

I know, I said that...they left the Whig party and were back then considered "fringe" and "a party going nowhere", etc.

I'll bet someone back then said, "a vote for the newly Republican party is a wasted vote and just like voting for a Democrat".

[The_Eaglet]

There are quite a few other candidates for the Republican nomination in addition to whoever the Libertarians nominate.

I take it that you are confident that the Republican Party will nominate an incumbent who outspent the previous administrations (and on a deficit, aty that), including that of Bill Clinton. If such is a case, neither the party nor the nominee are worthy of the support of conservatives. Another option must be presented and promoted that rejects socialistic expansion and supports the Constitution's limits on federal activity.

[nopardons]

See................you don't know the real from the delusion, after all.

Rod Serling is dead, are you implying that I should be too ? Or, if you're trying to interject a " TWILIGHT ZONE " something or other, first look to your own postings.

[Happy2BMe]

"Well does it carry the death penalty?"

Bush guilty of a captial crime? Did he commit a crime?

News to me.

However, he has slipped and tripped and skinned his knees all over illegal immgration reform (the illegals are now legal thing).

Nope. Nothing capital here. Political suicide perhaps.

[Happy2BMe]

Sterling . . it's Rod Sterling.

[nopardons]

But it only took tyhe GOP a very few election cycles to oust the Whigs completely. The LP's been around many dedcades, the RP went bust, the CP is sooooooooooo far off the radar, almost nol one even knows it exists.

[MissAmericanPie]

If you had not noticed, treason is no longer a capital offense.

[kingu]

That's what we've been saying exactly -- thank you for confirming for us that those who resort to personal attacks, -- whom you carefully omitted from your admonishment, curiously enough -- are proving to be less than intelligent.

I admonished you three not because you were the only three doing it (hell, I've done it more times that I care to remember) but because you have great points that stand up well on their own without needing to drop the level of debate. ('course, then you go with the zinger about them being less than intelligent... *bap!*)

Same goes for those who can't seem to discuss the immigration issue without calling Bush a traitor and so on.

Is Bush a traitor? No, though others are welcome to their opinion. If that distresses you, then ignore that line of argument, because they'll continue to use it as a club to divert the issue.

Anyway, just my point of view, and feel free to ignore it.

[The_Eaglet]

Somehow I missed the ratification on that.

[Texasforever]

The only differences between the Gipper and GW is what GW has not done that Reagan did. You mentioned the Amnesty and raising taxes, but Bush has also never signed an anti-gun bill Reagan did that twice and then lobbied for the Brady bill. Bush has never pulled troops out of harms way when casualties were taken, Reagan did. Bush has never just paid lip service to the abortion issue that is all Regan gave. Bush has never held up FDR as his role model and Reagan did plus voted for him 4 times. In all other respects, GW has based his entire governing model on the gipper’s and is actually following that model closer that Reagan did.