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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Bush's plan encourages illegals to register themselves and their employers. Once registered, we know where they live and work. That eases our task of enforcing the law.

Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

Thus, they deport themselves finally, a far better solution than using force to militarily round up 8 million illegals, house them in temporary concentration camps, and eventually march them home in great masses like battlefield refugees.

Ergo, Bush's plan makes far too much sense. We should endlessly complain about it.

3 posted on 01/17/2004 7:01:14 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

You know full well immigration laws are simply not enforced, no one will be made to go home, and they will eventually get citizenship. Especially after we hear endless sob stories from the media and democrats along with congressmen like Flake who'll tell us the world is going to come to an end if we don't let them stay.

We're setting ourselves to be suckers... again.

6 posted on 01/17/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Southack
It's not going to pass the House because Rep. John Hostettler who is Chairman of the Immigration SubCommittee, is against it:

Opponents Believe They Can Stop Immigration Plan



http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2850
7 posted on 01/17/2004 7:08:40 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Southack
Ah yes, now I see the logic.

First we once again tell them that it is okay to come into the country illegally. Then we tell them that we will provide them with jobs if they register and promise to go home eventually.

Then we promise the Americans that we will indeed enforce the laws already on the books that we have refused to enforce so far, and presto, we have a perfect solution!

If the Mexicans don't buy into it, we can promise them retirement funds send to their Mexican families for life.

If the Americans don't buy it, we will really, really promise to enfore those those nasty old laws that we already said are too hard to enforce.

Sooner or later everyone will be happy.

If we need guest workers in this country, and I don't believe we do, those jobs should only be offered to foreigners that are NOT already in this country. You want to apply for one? Go home first.
8 posted on 01/17/2004 7:11:25 PM PST by Marak (Let me turn you on to Fantasy.)
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To: Southack
Bush's plan won't work. By admission, almost half of the illegals were previously legal entries who overstayed their visas. We already know who they are and where they were. So, when their 3-year work arrangement expires, they can either apply for permanent entry or go back underground again. We already have a precedent in Europe. The guest worker program has resulted in more illegal immigrants in Germany, not less.
11 posted on 01/17/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by lchoro
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

LOL! Good one!

13 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Southack
And the PURIST, who won't read this article either, shall...complain and complain and COMPLAIN !
14 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Southack
Amen.

There's no use talking sense to some of these people. They'd rather keep the current disaster than support the first President who has ever sought to solve it.

George W. Bush may eventually be recognized as a greater President than Ronald W. Reagan was. If he is, it will almost be despite the lackluster support his party has given him.

Does it sometimes seem that Republicans want to punish him for the close vote in 2000 that has given the libs such a great opportunity to shred us and block our agenda? 2002 should have empowered us and convinced us that Dubya is NOT stupid, did NOT just fall off the turnip truck, and is a savvy politician who knows that if you don't win, you don't do squat for anyone.
15 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by Triple Word Score (2004: Even M&Ms are now BLACK AND WHITE.)
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To: Southack
I Agree with your analysis.
It is like lower taxes. The lower the tax the more the government actually collects. Why? It is easier to conform to the lower tax than to hire lawyers & try to cheat. Said another way, If it is rather easy to document guest workers, then they will conform. If they do not conform to our laws, then they will be required to leave. If they do not conform to our laws while they are here, then they have no possible way to return to the US. US employers will have to comply with the guest worker program too and hire only legal documented guest workers or face VERY heavy fines. The program may not be perfect but it is better than the status quo.
16 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:56 PM PST by encm(ss)
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To: Southack
Do you really believe these folks (criminals) would actually go back to mexico after 3 years? Let alone stay in the same residence/job for these 3 years?
24 posted on 01/17/2004 7:37:09 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: Southack
Thus, they deport themselves finally

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!! That's a good one.
35 posted on 01/17/2004 8:08:27 PM PST by kenth (This is not a tagline. You're hallucinating.)
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To: Southack
"Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here."

This is complete fiction. The federal tax was supposed to be temporary too!

The Gore Tax was supposed to be temporary.

How many bridges have we paid for and are still being asked to pay a toll just to cross over it?

Nope, this is just pure Bush touchy feely propaganda. Why would anyone who has tasted freedom and opportunity in America want to go back home to poverty and corruption? Why are so many trying to come in all the time?

And, if they don't have the political will to enforce our immigration laws as they are why should we believe the government authorities will enforce this 3 year limit?

Makes me think laws are for suckers and law-abiding hard working citizens are the suckers.

36 posted on 01/17/2004 8:10:22 PM PST by harpo11 (We'd Be Lucky to Have Our Citizenship Survive a Rampaging Herd of Politicians Seeking Election)
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

For sale:


49 posted on 01/17/2004 8:37:05 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs- Vote Tancredo in Primary)
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To: Southack
a far better solution than using force to militarily round up 8 million illegals, house them in temporary concentration camps, and eventually march them home in great masses like battlefield refugees.

It doesn't need to be carried out that way. You should read up on Operation Wetback which was implemented in 1954 to round up illegal aliens. We didn't have to physically round up all of the illegal aliens (most left voluntarily), we didn't house them in concentration camps, and we didn't march the illegal aliens home in great masses like battlefield refugees

138 posted on 01/18/2004 12:26:09 AM PST by usadave
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To: Southack
It boggles the mind that the Bush administration actually thinks conditions in Mexico will improve to the extent that people will happily go home once they get here and have steady employment for a couple of years. Where's the logic that says Mexico will become a workers' paradise once this proposal is enacted into law? We are bleeding to death, and this is a band-aid.
175 posted on 01/18/2004 4:52:58 AM PST by hershey
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