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Ten Easy Questions - No Pencils Needed!
Jan 17, 2004 | B4Ranch

Posted on 01/17/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by B4Ranch

Edited on 01/17/2004 7:13:51 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Ten Easy Questions - No Pencils Needed!

Here's two 'free questions' to think about. Audible answers are not required.

Should someone who refuses to assimilate, who doesn't want American citizenship be telling us how we should change the United States to make life easier for them?

Will we still be the Country of Choice and still have our American culture if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is their Country of Choice?

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A New Cost Conscious Plan To Consider

My plan says to all illegals, "Take what you have and leave now because if we have to come and catch you, at taxpayer expense, you'll go without anything but the clothes on your back!"

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Dear Mr. President,

Yes, I'm one of the 83%

If President Bush or Tom Ridge announced, "In six months the Homeland Security Department will be paying a $50 a head bounty for the name and address of each illegal alien on the US of A soil"

"Every foreign national, no exceptions, captured inside our borders who is not in America legally, after the selected date will forfeit ALL of their personal belongings (businesses, houses, cars, bank accounts, furniture, extra clothing, jewelry, everything!) and be deported within 24 hours."

Is this enough to make the current successful illegals, who have been sucking on the fruits of America for too long, go back to their homeland under their own expense? This bounty enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico or Canada.

The forfeited belongings would then searched by the police with their dogs for drugs, illegal weapons, stolen property, etc.

Anything your local Agencies could use, (tools, snowplows, pickup trucks, light and heavy machinery, etc.) would go to them, the remainder would be be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in your community.

Turn in a name and address after the 180 day period. If the person is there and is an illegal you get $50, no questions asked how you knew the information, no ID checks.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security! We don't need any more judges making compassionate laws from the bench on this subject!

The thousands who don't have a lot of personal assets would attempt to stay here. If hiring rules were changed that would mean no jobs. I think the remaining illegals would be turning each other in to get the easy cash.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools, etc. in the first year.

These cost savings could then be applied to border and airport security. Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins.

This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered immigrants or actual American citizens. This plan gives the illegals six months to pack up and get out of the United States without complete loss of their personal property.

After the selected date, divide the chosen state into quadrants depending on population per square mile. First arrest those whose names were turned in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. This gives the illegals a chance to turn each other in to the 800 numbers for the reward. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.

On the announced date, start in a State such as Iowa, Nebraska or Oklahoma. Centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install and train their volunteers and co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e. birth certificates, hospital records, court papers, etc. These people would be necessary to protect the Rights of American citizens who don't have the paperwork to prove where they were born.

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have so far successfully avoided capture. They already had 6 months to get out, they knew hanging around to test the system carried a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned. Once it has been declared that they are illegal aliens they would be treated like prisoners of war. No more phone calls, no TV, no cigarettes, just food, water and immediate deportation.

We have long had the necessary supply of "green card" farm workers in America. No valid justification exists for a new agricultural guest-worker program.

By artificially inflating the supply of labor, government interference in the agricultural labor market reduces incentives for mechanization and other forms of productivity increases.

This is an area that we are known world-wide for. The "bracero","temporary worker", "guest worker", "migrant", the "illegal alien farm worker" is responsible for the US not already developing a mechanized lettuce gathering machine.

The tomato farmers mechanized their production -- with the result that production quadrupled and prices fell over the next 30 years.

Any rise in produce costs would be short termed as many crops have switched to mechanized gathering and sorting during various stages.

Imagine the number of Chinese, Lebanese, Saudis, South Africans, etc. who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, buying new cars to take home, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.

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Cost Savings

How many schools could be closed? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need? How many small hospitals and state paid housing tracts?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens such as border security.

I've always wondered how many illegal folks are on Medicare that don't deserve it. I'll bet that would save a big chunk of money that could be used for American war veterans and our citizens health problems.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

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The Negative Effect To Our Economic Future

When I look at our smoothly readjusted unemployment numbers I see, especially pertaining foreigners working in the US who have no intention of becoming American citizens and are working in the US as adding insult to injury and ignorance. They will generally send home between 10 and 25% of their paycheck. This amounts to billions of dollars every year. The last number I recall being sent to Mexico was $12 billion

This is foreign aid by any other name.

Something our President said he would not do is give foreign aid to Mexico. I won't call him a liar here but I would to his face because then I could explain my reasoning to him.

When a person sends dollars earned in America to a foreign country this takes it out of our economic rotation system.

When you and I spend $10.00 in a local store that ten dollars gets rotated through at least seven different businesses or individuals hands before it stops the rotation at the US Treasury.

The local store owner might use it as wages, or to buy replenishment stock, to pay any number of fees or local taxes, buy gasoline or food at a local store, pay a bank loan. You name it. The $10.00 then will be loaned out again for someone to locally buy a car or home, or to a local road or home contractor, and on the cycle goes.

When the $10.00 goes to Mexico or India, it does not rotate in our economy, it does in Mexico's or India's though. That builds Mexico's or India's economy NOT ours.

The amount of money that is rotating in the daily cycle is one thing that controls our interest rates.

Take the 12 billion dollars that is going to Mexico and assume it only passes through corporate hands being taxed at 15% not the 35% personal rate that you and I pay.

The loss to our economy in taxes alone from a single 12B transfer is 18 million dollars. When that 12B passes thru seven different corporations the loss to America would be multiplied by the average profit gain of each corporation. There is no proper way that I know of to calculate the exact loss of business profits due to that cash NOT flowing through other American corporate accounts. (I'm sure someone does) I would estimate overall average business profits should be somewhere between 4% and 10% so there's another $48 to $120 million lost by the wayside in unearned income and unpaid taxes to our government.

American manufacturers are continuing to close down their plants in America because of foreign competition and unnecessary rules.

This current jobless recovery or lower paying job recovery is a very dangerous trend to continue. It will certainly lead to a deep recession and a continued of deflation of the dollar. This will be very long and painful to grow out of and will make permanent changes in the American culture and our way of life.

Folks, the day of reckoning is not too far down the road. Lets make our decision before someone else does it for us.

Mr. President,

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To: MattAMiller
Check this article for an eye opener.TEMP WORKERS
61 posted on 01/17/2004 4:02:54 PM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
My support for any eventual bill is conditional. No anchor babies for guest workers is one of those conditions.
65 posted on 01/17/2004 6:20:29 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Spiff
Great list! I'd add one more: Blast country music or rap music night and day, whether your Mexican neighbors like it or not.
66 posted on 01/17/2004 6:33:58 PM PST by Nea Wood (Democrats - they throw OUR money at THEIR problems.)
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To: B4Ranch; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
BumPing! Great Writing B4!
67 posted on 01/17/2004 10:51:41 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper; B4Ranch
Bookmark BUMP! Excellent work! I pray Bush "gets it".
68 posted on 01/17/2004 11:07:13 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: B4Ranch
#1. Bush puts out executive order, No one is to hire any Illegal for any reason, Fines and Jail terms to be imposed on any one violating this order.

#2 Police in all towns to check for Illegal aliens and hold for pickup by fed. authorities to deport. Towns not in compliance will lose all federal monies to such town,ie. education , roads etc.

#3 Notice, all Illegals will be fingerprinted and photo ID'd just like is being done at the airports and any one found in this country will be deported and will never be allowed to apply for citizenship status.

#4 All costs associated with the program to capture and deport aliens will be collated and charged to the offending country.

#5 No services of any kind will be given to Illegal aliens, any emergency service will be billed to the country of origin.

# 6 Any School, College, University etc found giving entrance to Illegal aliens will lose all federal Monies of any kind and the administrators of such schools will be prosecuted.

#7 Take all of our Troops now operating for the benefit of Foreign Countries all over the world and bring them home to perform the same security service( protection of the Borders) here in America for the People who pay all the Bills with their Taxes.

#8 Any and all Politicians who do not stand behind protecting our borders like McCain etc. are to be removed from Office.

#9 any Illegal without proper documentation is to be taken in custody and as soon as practical returned to the country of Origin and the offending country to be charged for the service. No Courts , No Lawyers, No Nothing, Just get them out.

# 10 No anchor Baby laws No More.
69 posted on 01/18/2004 7:20:39 AM PST by chatham
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To: RaceBannon
Beaucoup important!!! Thanx for the ping , Race
70 posted on 01/18/2004 10:03:37 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
President Bush - stand up and tell us the truth

~ Take the FReeper Immigration Reform Poll ~


71 posted on 01/18/2004 10:28:00 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: B4Ranch
Bump for the truth!
72 posted on 01/18/2004 1:27:49 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (PHASE II: The President has declared a war on poverty.)
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To: nuconvert
Still don't like his policies; will still vote for him.

No wonder Big Stupid Republican Government keeps getting bigger, dumber and much more expensive.

America is just getting too stupid and passive to even consider the possibility that we used to be free.

73 posted on 01/18/2004 1:32:26 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Hank Rearden
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74 posted on 01/18/2004 1:34:37 PM PST by nuconvert ( "It had only one fault. It was kind of lousy.")
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To: nuconvert
You don't like his policies, yet you will vote for him.

What sense does that make? You're willing to say "give me more of the policies I don't like"?

75 posted on 01/18/2004 1:42:48 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Hank Rearden
"immigration policies "

I don't like his immigration policies.
I don't expect to be in total agreement with anyone.
For the most part, I'm happy with the job he's doing.

And your suggestion would be whom?
76 posted on 01/18/2004 1:48:48 PM PST by nuconvert ( "It had only one fault. It was kind of lousy.")
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To: nuconvert
My suggestion? Ron Paul of Texas.
77 posted on 01/18/2004 2:40:54 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: nuconvert; Hank Rearden; xkaydet65; MattAMiller; Jimmy Valentine's brother; RaceBannon; ...
Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said on Sunday that Saudi Arabia should sell oil for gold, not dollars, to avoid being "short-changed" by a decline in the U.S. currency.

Check his numbers on how the Dollar is doing under the strain of increasing illegal aliens.

This is what's coming under the current financial chip counters we have in D.C.

"This current jobless recovery or lower paying job recovery is a very dangerous trend to continue. It will certainly lead to a deep recession and a continued of deflation of the dollar."

When government programs are expanding and the tax base (business and individual) gross financial income is shrinking, the result is that you must make major reductions to keep away from bankruptcy court.

The rest of the world will not chip in to help pay for the $5 billion space initiative, to recover the $1.5 Billion for the promotion of marriage, or pay for the unfunded prescription drug plans in the Medicare program, the TSA's crazy costs, the agriculture Bill, the Dept. of Homeland Security stumbling, the steel tariffs, they aren't going to help promote the proposal to cut U.S. manufacturers taxes nor the horrendously costly "temporary worker" idea.

The unemployed Americans aren't happy with the "outsourcing idea" because it takes too much money out of our economic rotation. The H1-B visas are doing the same thing thing. NAFTA and Free Trade are great ideas if you think globalism is a good idea, which it is for third world countries. But, as you have seen with Mexico, there is a lot of resistance to open our borders to their trucking companies and unexpected freight.

I oppose his domestic agenda almost completely. Removing our support for the ridiculous Kyoto Accord was a smart move. Ending our involvement in the International Criminal Court was a good one. I supported our THREE raises for our troops. We need THREE more, but can't afford them! He Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without starting a war there. Reorganized the INS was smart. Slamming the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up in our national forests was a cost saver reducing fire danger to many cities and towns. I especially appreciate the Bush family restoring honor and dignity to the White House and the Presidency.

His war on terror is half hearted because our borders are still open. The airlines are all in trouble with TSA's ideas of how to NOT profile passengers.

The Federal Budget is growing like a cancer tumor. They need to study Reagan's economic plans if we are to have a chance instead of following Carter's. The trade deficit with China is a major pain that he's ignoring. Privatizing the SS isn't a great idea right now because the dollar is dropping and I feel a lot of people are going to get taken to the cleaners in this market style. He needs to make sure we can afford his (or Kennedy's)compassionate plans before introducing them. Right now we cannot afford them, sorry to say. We need some strong number crunchers to kick him in the butt with facts and say, "Mr. President you need to start vetoing some of that crap that comes across your desk. Get rid of the old Clinton lovers in your administration. Get some fresh hard heads who won't lie to you about what's happening and do it before the sun comes up tomorrow morning."

78 posted on 01/18/2004 4:23:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Read this earlier.
Very interesting.
79 posted on 01/18/2004 4:26:31 PM PST by nuconvert ( "It had only one fault. It was kind of lousy.")
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To: nuconvert
I was pinging you to #78 for your comments.
80 posted on 01/18/2004 4:35:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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