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Bush Looks at New Health Care Initiative, Advisers Say
NY Times ^ | January 17, 2004 | ELISABETH BUMILLER and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 01/17/2004 4:43:41 AM PST by dread78645

WASHINGTON, Jan. 16 — President Bush is expected to propose a health care initiative in his State of the Union address to help the uninsured and the underinsured, White House advisers said on Friday.

It was unclear how much the initiative, to be announced in the address on Tuesday, would cost at a time when Mr. Bush is under pressure because of a growing budget deficit. But White House officials have made clear that they do not want to cede the politically potent issue of health care to the Democratic presidential candidates, all of whom have made health care a centerpiece of their campaigns.

One of the main drivers of a significant section of the uninsured in America is because of the rising costs of health care," a senior administration official said Friday in a briefing to reporters. "And those can be addressed from several different ways, which he'll talk about on Tuesday."

Mr. Bush has already proposed an $89 billion, 10-year package of tax credits for the uninsured, which is many times less than the health plans of the Democrats.

In a pre-emptive critique of Mr. Bush's speech, the two leading Democrats in Congress delivered their own assessment of the condition of the nation on Friday, including criticism of what one of them, Senator Tom Daschle, called a growing gap in health care.

"The American people have a right to ask, `Mr. President, how do you intend to make health care more affordable, and more available?' " Mr. Daschle, of South Dakota, said in a speech at the National Press Club.

Another "pre-rebuttal" to the State of the Union address was given at the press club by Representative Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader.

"Mr. President, America's families are hurting," Ms. Pelosi, of California, said. "But you are not helping. In fact, you are making it harder for American families to prosper. Yours is a government of the few, by the few, for the few."

The speeches drew immediate criticism from Representative Tom DeLay of Texas, the House Republican leader, whose office issued a statement saying: "Sad as it is to say, Democrat leaders only agree on two things: they hate President Bush, and they want to raise your taxes. After three years of sitting on the sidelines and booing from the bleachers, this is all they can come up with? All they have to offer is a creepy, Orwellian mantra: Bush bad, taxes good."

Administration officials said Mr. Bush's address would also call for making billions of dollars in recently enacted tax cuts permanent over the next 10 years. In addition, the president will again push his longstanding plan to create personal investment accounts for Social Security, the advisers said.

Mr. Bush will open his nationally televised prime-time address with an update on the administration's campaign against terrorism and on national security, his strongest issue against the Democrats. He will then move into domestic policy.

Last year Mr. Bush did the opposite — he began with domestic policy and ended with foreign policy — but that was because he used the speech to make the case for military action against Iraq, the official said. The balance was struck for dramatic purposes as much as anything, the official suggested.

"Try to imagine flipping it the other way in which you have that very somber address about a nation at war, and go, Now, let's turn to the economy," the offical said. "It's just, you almost — you almost had to end on that point."

In her pre-rebuttal, Ms. Pelosi said that Mr. Bush had alienated important allies and that Americans were suffering "the dangerous consequences of the president's distorted priorities" overseas.

"In the State of the Union, President Bush must explain how he plans to restore America's standing in the eyes of the world," Ms. Pelosi said.

She said Mr. Bush's policy toward Iraq had been "marked by confusion and uncertainty," and called the president's antiterrorism campaign "strategically unfocused."

"Never before has a president done so much, so fast, to undermine our relations with other nations," Ms. Pelosi said, adding, "As a nation, we must do more than show our strength. We must show our greatness."


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To: steve50
You just don't understand the political genius of it all, we defeat our enemy by becoming him. BOHICA

But we can do it in so inefficient wasteful way (like high priced medications for seniors) that we can bankrupt the budget and demonstrate that way the error of our enemy. As a nice side effect, the big corporations can make more profit.

41 posted on 01/17/2004 6:08:47 AM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: A. Pole
As a nice side effect, the big corporations can make more profit.

It's those public/private partnerships we heard so much about. They had other terms for it in the past, not nearly as PC tho.

42 posted on 01/17/2004 6:11:41 AM PST by steve50 ("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
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To: dread78645
Can't say I'm surprised
43 posted on 01/17/2004 6:17:23 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: dread78645
I don't see a spending program here...I see tax credits.

Maybe this isn't so bad after all...

44 posted on 01/17/2004 6:26:00 AM PST by Justice
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To: dread78645
The solution is to take all the illegal aliens and make them doctors, nurses, therapists, etc. They can wander about the country and knock on doors, asking if anyone needs brain surgery, organ transplants, etc. Of course they'll work for $5 an hour, thus greatly reducing health care costs and making medical insurance unnecessary.

(I'm running for president and my campaign slogan is "Two birds with one stone.")
45 posted on 01/17/2004 6:33:16 AM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: Justice
I don't see a spending program here...I see tax credits.

Hope you are right. Specifically this would be MSAs (Medical Savings Accounts), which conservatives (and rational people) love. Throw is massive tort reform, and I will be a happy dude.

Unknown however if Bush is capable of this, given his pandering to date.

46 posted on 01/17/2004 6:42:15 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: AAABEST
My #11 is a masterpiece in a horrible paragraph. Typo, bad grammar, spelling errors the works

It's hard to type properly with a big knife in your back.

You did a great job of conveying the rage one feels after reading this article.

47 posted on 01/17/2004 6:47:42 AM PST by e_engineer
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To: Lazamataz
I am extremely disappointed. I really thought that, despite some misgivings I had about him, that George W. Bush was an honorable man.

His behavior lately, however, strikes of the most bald pandering, and is reminiscent in some ways of the Bent One.

I really don't know what to do now. By the time the election comes around, we may be bankrupt.

48 posted on 01/17/2004 6:50:21 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: B Knotts
His behavior lately, however, strikes of the most bald pandering, and is reminiscent in some ways of the Bent One.

George Bush came to my small town in July 1999 and gave a campaign speech.

I took my kids, as we always try to meet all of the candidates (a benefit of living in NH).

After my encounter with W, I posted on this forum, "He is our Clinton".

I will of course vote for him. But my original judgement was not far off.

49 posted on 01/17/2004 6:53:41 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
Well, I voted for him to keep out Algore, and stave off disaster a for a little while. Apparently, that's a very little while. :-/
50 posted on 01/17/2004 6:55:49 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: RJCogburn
See #51 for the actualy quote; evidently humor has gone out the window at FR, along with truth.
52 posted on 01/17/2004 6:59:22 AM PST by Howlin
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To: dread78645
to help the uninsured and the underinsured

Why not work on bringing jobs back into this country? And what's the point in bringing in 8 million guest workers and their families when so many Americans can't afford insurance?

53 posted on 01/17/2004 7:03:37 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Howlin
LOL, OK. I didn't think so.

I know you get edgy at times, but I'm glad to know you're still with us here on earth.

54 posted on 01/17/2004 7:08:26 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
Well, what he posted LOOKED so much better, though, didn't it?
55 posted on 01/17/2004 7:09:48 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
The uninsured come to the emergency room, but they don't get the type of ongoing care that will keep them healthier and reduce the occurrence of emergencies. OK, well, what is the best way for them to get health care insurance? To get a good job. What if they have no skills? If we raise taxes to pay for universal health care, the economy won't be as robust; therefore fewer jobs.

We have to maintain the ethic that you work hard and succeed to get good things like great health care, or we will sink into socialism, which cannot sustain this level of great health care for all, anyway.

56 posted on 01/17/2004 7:13:58 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Lazamataz
DON'T FORGET to put my name on the list.

I would hate to have people think I was a liberal.

LOL!

57 posted on 01/17/2004 7:16:30 AM PST by browardchad
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To: NutCrackerBoy
There are two ways for people to have health insurance --- get it from working --- meaning they have to earn enough to buy it or they get it free from the government confiscating the wages of those who are working.

Jobs being sent to foreign countries isn't helping this situation at all --- and bringing down the wages and job benefits of American citizens by bringing in indigent foreigners isn't helping either. A shortage of workers can be a good thing, employers then begin to raise wages and compete for workers.
58 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:21 AM PST by FITZ
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To: dread78645
""The American people have a right to ask, `Mr. President, how do you intend to make health care more affordable, and more available?' " Mr. Daschle, of South Dakota, said in a speech at the National Press Club."

The American people have a right to ask, Sen. Dasshole, why is it that everyone has to suck of the Gubbermint teat especially for an illegitimate function of Gubbermint?

59 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:54 AM PST by sauropod (Graduate, Boortz Institute for Insensitivity Training)
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To: Kevin Curry; Howlin
"I know you're compiling a list of the names of FReepers critical of Bush's liberal Democrat agenda so you can "hunt them down one by one" if Bush ends up in exile at his Crawford ranch next year. Here's a few more names for your list."

I sincerely hope it does not come to that. I have some friends that i disagree with here on the board. Howlin is one. She is good people.

60 posted on 01/17/2004 7:20:58 AM PST by sauropod (Graduate, Boortz Institute for Insensitivity Training)
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