The Arch of Titus may not be a correct representation of how the Temple Menorah looked. According to Maimonides, the arms of the Menorah were straight and not curved.
1 posted on
01/15/2004 5:26:26 PM PST by
Alouette
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2 posted on
01/15/2004 5:27:02 PM PST by
Alouette
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It's about time!
Now this is the kind of Jewish-Catholic conflict I can get into whole-heartedly (unlike the usual "conservative" Catholics vs. "liberal" Jews routine).
Hey, Rabbis! Demand that the Catholic Church stop disseminating the documentary hypothesis and evolutionism!!!
3 posted on
01/15/2004 5:38:31 PM PST by
Zionist Conspirator
(Ki sheishet yamim `asah HaShem 'et HaShamayim ve'et Ha'Aretz.)
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I remember some clown awhile back going round and round with myself and a few others, he called himself 'harvard man', who claimed that the Arc of Titus was faked.
His explanation was extremely twisted and convoluted.
Seeing that pic just reminded me of him.
Getting back on topic, it's good to see that they're going to be able to at least begin to track things down if not find them outright.
4 posted on
01/15/2004 5:43:24 PM PST by
Darksheare
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To: Alouette
I loaned John Paul II a Queensryche CD a few years back.
I bet he thinks I've forgotten about it....
5 posted on
01/15/2004 5:47:24 PM PST by
baltodog
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It's gone.
Examination of the post-holes used to hang bronze letters on the Coliseum indicate that Vespasian and Titus built the structure using loot from the supression of the Jewish revolt.
They melted it down and made it into money, odds are.
6 posted on
01/15/2004 5:48:24 PM PST by
TheAngryClam
(Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
To: Alouette
=== "My heart tells me this is not the truth, but that it is some kind of camouflage,"
Do you also believe the Vatican is lying?
8 posted on
01/15/2004 5:49:41 PM PST by
Askel5
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It's simply inconceivable that the Vatican would be hiding it. If they had it, they would say so. And in the present climate of opinion, they would return it to the Jews, although it's not altogether obvious who it would be returned to. Short of rebuilding the Temple, which no government of Israel has ever wanted to even talk about, it's not clear where it should be kept.
Melting down is the most likely fate. If the Romans brought it back as spoil, they would have been more interested in its weight in gold than its religious significance.
12 posted on
01/15/2004 6:01:52 PM PST by
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16 posted on
01/15/2004 6:08:56 PM PST by
SJackson
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Personally, I think it's more likely the Palestinian "archaeologists" digging on the Temple Mount have it.
30 posted on
01/15/2004 6:24:03 PM PST by
CaptRon
(Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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Gravemakers from the roman and hellene eras, as I recllect show the menora as curved.
Here's a ancient one from Greece:
I'm looking for more.
38 posted on
01/15/2004 6:39:28 PM PST by
bvw
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The Re-Building of the Temple as told in the Book of Revelation:
Prophecy is happening before our eyes.....
40 posted on
01/15/2004 6:42:13 PM PST by
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Interesting that the rabbis would think the Vatican housed Roman loot! If anything, they should check with the Italian government. They are the descendants of the Romans, not the pope.
Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list
51 posted on
01/15/2004 6:59:52 PM PST by
NYer
("One person and God make an army." - St. Teresa of Avila)
To: Alouette
Good post...I say, if it still is in existance...give it back..along with whatever else belongs in Jerusalem.
Red
64 posted on
01/15/2004 7:25:48 PM PST by
Conservative4Ever
(Last year I was conceited.........this year I'm perfect.)
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I think I am finally beginning to understand what "chutzpah" means.
70 posted on
01/15/2004 7:40:27 PM PST by
yarddog
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Uh, it's unlikely that the Vatican has the original Menorah. If it was still in Rome by 410 AD, it was likely carried off by Alaric and his Goths, who took an enormous treasure away with them after their sack of the city. If I remember him history correctly, Alaric buried his treasure in a riverbed and it has never been found to this day.
If the menorah happened to remain after Alaric left, I highly doubt it survived much worse sack by the Vandals in 455. If the Vandals got their hands on it, it was probably melted down.
73 posted on
01/15/2004 7:42:55 PM PST by
Antoninus
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Ping-a-ling
74 posted on
01/15/2004 7:43:29 PM PST by
Brad’s Gramma
(I'm a Bush/JimBot and Proud of It!)
To: Alouette
I have always wanted to dig through the storage rooms of the Vatican. They've got tons of our stuff in there.
To: Alouette
Amar said the Vatican official denied the menorah was there. "My heart tells me this is not the truth, but that it is some kind of camouflage At this point all discussion and access should cease.
91 posted on
01/16/2004 12:53:45 AM PST by
.45MAN
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Word has it that they also are looking for "Mormon" baptism lists hidden within the Vatican....... 8~)
133 posted on
01/16/2004 9:03:31 AM PST by
tracer
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Ping!
139 posted on
01/16/2004 12:40:50 PM PST by
NYer
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