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Bush Gives Country Away
WND.com | 01-15-03 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 01/15/2004 9:49:14 AM PST by Theodore R.

Bush gives country away

Posted: January 15, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

President Bush's plan to legalize 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens – maybe considerably more – is one of the most irresponsible, dangerous, reckless proposals to come out of Washington in my lifetime.

And that's saying a lot.

In my lifetime, I have witnessed:

wage-and-price controls imposed by Richard Nixon;

the greatest expansion of unconstitutional, immoral wealth-transfer programs in the history of our country;

the use of the Internal Revenue Service by President Clinton to harass and intimidate political adversaries;

the sacrifice of more than 50,000 U.S. servicemen in a war they would not be allowed to win;

the shredding of the Constitution in a thousand ways to bring us to the point at which politicians no longer even question the limits of the federal government;

the transfer by President Clinton of sensitive technology with military applications to a budding superpower for campaign cash;

the demoralization and emasculation of the country under President Carter;

I watched all this and more in nearly a half-century of life. But, honestly, President Bush's proposal to legalize untold millions of illegal aliens is potentially worse than any of these blunders, any of these mistakes, any of these abuses.

Why?

First, because it is immoral. Bush claims this is the "compassionate" thing to do. But he is misusing the term "compassion" the same way do those who would most like to unseat him from power. There is nothing compassionate about inflicting pain on others, in hurting the country, while accepting none of the responsibility, nor pain, nor sacrifice yourself. This move will not materially affect George W. Bush's life. But it will impact those competing for jobs at the lower end of the economic ladder. It will impact those who live in crime-plagued areas of the country and who don't have Secret Service protection. It will impact those who chose to obey the laws rather than flout them as their first act in America.

Second, it is unconstitutional. The federal government has few and limited areas of responsibility in our republican system of government. Among those clearly defined areas are the defense of the nation and the defense of our borders. This act is a reprehensible betrayal of the president's oath of office to uphold the law and execute it.

Third, it is bad policy. Even the simple act of proposing this notion encourages more illegal immigration into our country. More foreigners will want to get in on the action. It sends a horrible signal that America doesn't really believe in enforcing its laws. It promotes chaos at our borders and crime in our streets.

Fourth, it risks national security. Presumably, there was a reason this president placed the Immigration and Naturalization Service under the Department of Homeland Defense. The American people assume it was because he finally recognized that out-of-control immigration is a real threat – especially at a time when terrorists are trying desperately to kill and maim as many of us as possible.

It's not strong enough to call Bush's proposal "irresponsible." It is borderline seditious. And there is a widespread perception he is making this move because he believes there is personal political gain in it.

That is hardly "compassion," Mr. President. That is the worst kind of cynicism. That is the worst kind of selfishness. That is the worst kind of example a leader could set for the nation.

Shame on Bush. Shame on his party for standing by quietly as he sets out to destroy the fabric of our nation. Shame on the opposition for suggesting his move doesn't go far enough. Shame on all Americans who lie down and accept this outrage from Washington.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amen; carter; clinton; compassion; compassionless; deathofmiddleclass; farah; ghwb; goodbyeconstitution; hellonewworldorder; ilegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; nixon; sedition; shame
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To: Theodore R.
bttt
181 posted on 01/15/2004 5:48:56 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Cultural Jihad; guardian_of_liberty; Marine Inspector
As we do today when they are caught. In 1999 we deported over 1.7 million undocumented immigrants. We have averaged over 1.3 million deportation each year in the previous decade. >>>>>>>

Your deportation Numbers are WRONG.......

Marine Inspector corrected your mistake the other night & you acknowledged the mistake.

Perhaps Marine Inspector can correct you again, or I can reprints the posts for you.
182 posted on 01/15/2004 6:13:39 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: RebelBanker
Per a Fox News article I linked to earlier, enforcing existing laws is not working very well. This appears to be due to a combination of inadequate enforcement resources and legal difficulties in prosecution.>>>>>

That & all we spent last year was 20 million for enforcement within the borders. Really not much money.
184 posted on 01/15/2004 6:20:09 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: raybbr
Say what you will, it has been made into an hispanic issue. Have you seen interviews with other ethnicities? All I ever see are sob stories about hispanics. What about all the other groups? How come no one interviews a Polish or Asian family about their plight? >>>>>>>

All the latino organizations, LULAC, Mencha, LA RAZA, etc. All funded heavily by the likes of the FORD Foundation, etc.

That & their mexicans politicians, V. Fox & consuls, who are in the US media daily, demanding their citizens have "rights" & they want US laws changed for them.
185 posted on 01/15/2004 6:37:26 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: RebelBanker
"He spends the entire article ranting against the President's plan without making any suggestion at all about an alternative."

My plan says take what you have and leave or if we catch you, you'll go without anything but the clothes on your back!

"The National Population Council reported that 9.9 million Mexicans call America home and that more than 7.82 million of those - or 79 percent - do not have U.S. citizenship. It did not break down how many had legal residence papers."

"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

Divide a state into quadrants depending on population per square mile., First arrest those whose names were turn in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.

Get caught after the selected dated and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit all their belongings (houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) and be deported within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in that community. Another cost saver!

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

I've always wondered how many folks are on Medicare that don't deserve it. I'll bet that would save a big chuink of money that could be used for American war veterans and citizens health problems.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

Scan the whole page for good reading!
Conservative Debate Handbook

186 posted on 01/15/2004 6:45:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Marine Inspector
Hey MI!
Haven't heard much of you lately.
Hope all is well.
REgards,
Az
187 posted on 01/15/2004 6:53:22 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dane
Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people?

Enforce our current laws and stop welfare for illegal aliens.

Once they find no jobs or handouts, they'll leave on there own accord.

188 posted on 01/15/2004 7:11:37 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: Marine Inspector
"Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people?"

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tancredo/
189 posted on 01/15/2004 7:15:33 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
Howdy az,

I was banned and have been resurrected.

All is semi well. Bush just keeps making my life harder.


190 posted on 01/15/2004 7:18:34 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: azhenfud
Signed.
191 posted on 01/15/2004 7:20:13 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: azhenfud
You are quite right about Mexicans being the majority of the illegals, but I would note that Asians (particularly Chinese IIRC) are a notable minority of them. Thus, I would suggest that Asians should be considered a significant part but not the most significant part.
192 posted on 01/15/2004 7:26:42 PM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: Dane
Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people?

1,000 at a time. Just what part of illegal don't you understand?

193 posted on 01/15/2004 7:35:27 PM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Well, welcome back to the land of the existing.

I see your solution to the Illegalien prollem is a lot like mine.

Quoting from a famous General, "first we're going to cut it off then kill it". Drying up the incentives to cross the border is paramount, and penalties to the brink of bankruptcy for Felons who hire and aid Illegaliens should be enacted and enforced.

With an estimated $40 billion in services to 10 million Illegaliens annually, if we deport 25% and another 25% deport themselves after we offer a $500/head bounty per Illegalien and a min $15500 bounty for those felons, soon our yearly savings would fund the President's Medicaid Reform Act quite nicely as well as providing a nice education and penal system reform.

I've not seen too many entirely pleased with the Pres's proposal, except maybe those who have or are employing Illegaliens. In essence, this plan is not about amnesty for those who cross the borders, it's a bid for amnesty for the felons who hire and aid Illegaliens.

REgards,
Az
194 posted on 01/15/2004 7:36:16 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: jetson
...a little less incentive to be here in the first place (welfare and other handouts)...

Sorry if that did not come out quite right. I was suggesting cutting off welfare and other such goodies for illegals. The "a little less" part was meant to be sarcastic.

195 posted on 01/15/2004 7:36:41 PM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: RebelBanker
Sorry if that did not come out quite right. I was suggesting cutting off welfare and other such goodies for illegals

Great point but that is up to the states not the feds. Talk to your govenor.

196 posted on 01/15/2004 7:39:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Zipporah
WE WERE DUPED AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY AT THE MERCY OF A PRESIDENT THAT CARES NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK

Ziporrah, I really don't think we conservatives were duped when we voted for Bush in 2000. We knew that he would be "moderate-to-liberal." It's not a surprise. We may have kidded ourselves, but we knew that his conservatism had strict limits, mostly tax cuts that did not affect everyone and a partial-birth abortion ban, which may or may not limit abortions in the long run. Of course, we thought he did a commendable job after 9-11, but the bloom is off the rose for many of us now. Some may actually vote for a minor candidate in the Republican primaries, but most will still hold their noses and vote for Bush in the fall. After all, old habits are hard to break! We've been voting for Bushes now since 1980, hoping against hope that it will "make a difference."
197 posted on 01/15/2004 7:39:58 PM PST by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Texas_Dawg; Cathryn Crawford
are they the ones that have that little 13-year-old kid that lectures everyone about adult issues

Rmember the whooping you put on the ol' Dawg in that thread, Cat?

198 posted on 01/15/2004 7:45:31 PM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: Dane
Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people?

One at a time.

199 posted on 01/15/2004 7:47:05 PM PST by Pelham
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To: RebelBanker
Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world

In California it will be met by wild cheering in the streets.

200 posted on 01/15/2004 7:50:04 PM PST by Pelham
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